06-02-2020, 09:53 AM | #15 |
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my 2016 v6 is every bit as fun as my 2001 V8 Z28 was speed and power wise plus i can easily get 35+ mpg cruising on the highway if i want or 5-5.5 second 0-60 times which is far faster than all the lemmings drive on the road.
if you need the biggest hp-peen then yea, you got the wrong engine. But the days of needing a V8 to have any kind of power in a car are long gone. These aren't mid 100-200 hp engines like in the 90's and older. like it or not, the camaro (and the mustang recently) are sports cars. They're not muscle cars because muscle cars are only good at doing one thing, putting down a lot of power and not usually making much good use out of it unless it's in a straight line. The camaro is a sports car because it handles extremely well and is powerful (until you start modifying it beyond zl1 - and the tires/brakes can no longer manage the power). It's just a bit on the bulky side for a sports car. If you want a muscle car get a challenger. They're heavy as hell and handles like garbage but looks good doing it just like a muscle car should. |
06-02-2020, 01:23 PM | #16 |
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3.6 is a *very* good motor. You should enjoy the things that your engine does so well! The fact that your car can beat most older muscle cars while running regular gas @ 35 MPG on the freeway is pretty bitchin!
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06-02-2020, 02:11 PM | #17 |
Drives: 2017 RS CAMARO V6 Join Date: Jun 2018
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Maybe, but that depends on the dealership. I had a major recall on the rack and pinion and oil pump replacement due to a TSB that racked up about $4000 worth of warranty parts and labor. The dealership I took mine to GLADLY accepted my car with all my intake and exhaust mods. Service advisor said he personally pocketed $1000 in commission from all that! But honestly a new muffler and air filter don't have anything to do with those problems.
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06-02-2020, 02:22 PM | #18 |
Drives: 2016 Camaro LT1 RS Black on Black Join Date: Apr 2017
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RyanR623 - I think you just nailed the epitome of being a car guy, or boat guy, or just a guy who can't have anything stock. That's awesome my friend, good call. Lol
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06-02-2020, 02:34 PM | #19 |
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Yep, take that 10k hit and get the SS or a ZL1.
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06-02-2020, 05:10 PM | #20 | |
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What I've noticed is some cars pull up to my side bumping their pedals to try and race and while I want to, I cant due to it being late at night and idk what cops can lurk around. I've had Hyundai genesis, bmw roadsters, and other vehicles wanting to race, I deny cause why? Lol. I wanna race but I dont wanna be a show off unless I have to like cutting me off or something. Do I enjoy my car? I truly do, I just always see/hear how 2.0T and 6.2L engines have more potential than 3.6L engines. |
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06-03-2020, 08:06 AM | #21 | |
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I hear you about racing, not worth it. Years ago i had a supra turbo that was modded quite a bit. I had a 4 cylinder probe come up next to me that wanted to race (fast and furious era where everyone thought their car was lightning fast because they took the muffler off). Only problem was there was a truck in front of me, so i floored it and got into the next lane behind the probe, but didn't see my buddy (also had a supra) coming up fast in that lane to race the stupid probe and he hit me. To make matters worse there was a cop at the intersection ahead of us. The probe got off scot free and both me and my buddy got ticketed for drag racing, 6 points on our license, $500 fine and our insurance went WAY up. |
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06-03-2020, 01:12 PM | #22 | |
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However, it looks like you have the mod itch, and you are 100% correct, aftermarket for the LGX is non existent, so far there's Edelbrock, Overkill if you can get a response from Will, and I think Procharger? But that was made pretty much to fill a market gap since I haven't seen more than a handful of reviews/discussions of these superchargers. If you want performance on a budget, the 4Cyl 1LE is the best you can get in the segment, heck, Randy Pobst got one and that man has driven the best cars in the world and he could def afford the SS 1LE which he absolutely adores. But from reading that you will be doing city driving, you are perfectly fine as you only really the lack of torque when you drive anything else, which you won't be doing often I presume, my only tips would be to get the cradle lockouts, Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires, and a Borla Attak exhaust, you'll be about $2500, you won't really get more out of the engine but you will get the best out of the car with those mods, trust me, I already went through it.
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06-04-2020, 11:41 PM | #23 |
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When I bought my 2018 RS w/LGX, I ran the numbers for the SS: 40% higher operating costs (20% fewer mpg, 20% higher fuel cost for required premium gas). That, and $10K more for 1 second less 0-60 is simply not worth it. Plus there's very little difference in cornering between the two because the RS is almost 300 lbs lighter than the SS.
My car has only 4 options: RS package, sunroof, block heater, and auto trans. I used the money I saved for mods, last one installed yesterday was a Borla Atak axle-back that sounds amazing. Before that, a dash kit, footwell LED lighting, tinted windows, front side markers and taillights, engine dress up, K&N air filter, and a couple of extra emblems on the back bumper. I love driving my RS, and am very happy with the balance between performance and cost. Last edited by digitalfutur; 06-04-2020 at 11:55 PM. |
06-05-2020, 08:41 AM | #24 | |
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As for the numbers, I never got anything better than 5.7s 0-60 on 285 PS4S, with my 1LE I got a 4.5 without even trying, and the V8 has twice the torque from 0 RPM and it's not even comparable, MPGs? I was getting 16 mpg on my modded V6 Auto, now I'm getting 15 on my Manual V8, play all you want with numbers, they don't really matter in the real world. If you really want a nice driving non V8 Camaro, either get the 1LE or get a non-RS (manual) as both come with the FE3 suspension.
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06-05-2020, 10:44 AM | #25 | |
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IIRC the V6 AT doesn't come with an LSD, right? That would probably hurt the acceleration time. As for gas mileage, dude mentioned that you have to account for the price difference between 87 and 93. I can't imagine too much of a difference between V6 and V8 in terms of real-life city MPG numbers since V6 has to rev higher to get going while you can lazily tug along the V8 because it's so torquey. But then again, your right foot is the deciding factor here.
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06-05-2020, 11:20 AM | #26 | |
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The run-flats lose grip very easily during turns, and they hydroplane on rain, plus they are shipped to order (no physical stock) and they're like $350 a piece for a 245, yeah no thanks, first experience with a rwd car and I could tell how bad they are. Gas might be an issue depending on how you drive, for some odd reason when hard driving my SS, mpgs won't go down that much but I won't make it past 230 miles at 15 mpg, which is around 30 less miles per tank of gas I had with my V6, and as you mentioned with the torque and a manual, I'm way more speed and rpm conscious than with the V6, I can overtake cars on high gears and low rps because of the power and torque, with the V6 I had to drop a gear or two, and I was still using 93 for around half a year preparing for the V8 before gas was as cheap as it is now, not that much more expensive and it pulled smoother at high rpms, and no it didn't add more power.
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06-05-2020, 11:55 AM | #27 | |
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Yeah, the price of run-flats would turn me around real quick. We already have the tire goo in the trunk so I don't see the point of run-flats. As for gas mileage, I drove an RX-8 so even the Camaro SS 1LE is perfectly acceptable. I was regularly getting 13~14 MPG in the RX-8 in the city. Revving high is fun but it's a necessity as well just due to how little torque an NA rotary engine has. The fact that rotaries aren't as thermally efficient as piston engines doesn't help. The best tank was still below 20 MPG and that's with CC set to about 60 MPH about 90% of the time. Meanwhile, I drove my SS 1LE back on a highway, going 70 MPH+, dropping gears and accelerating every few minutes to ensure I am breaking in the engine properly and I get 19 MPG, so I can't really complain.
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06-05-2020, 12:43 PM | #28 | |
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Not having an LSD would drive me crazy. Don't think it makes that much of a difference on the street, but for autox and track it would be no bueno. My last car was a Focus ST with one of the E-diffs where it squeezes the brake to simulate an LSD. On the street it was fine, probably made it more fun. At autox it was OK, it did a couple of weird things, but nothing that I couldn't drive around. Once I did a couple of track days I wanted to throw it in the garbage. It was impossible to put power down out of the corners.
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