MSD 2700 intake manifold - Page 2

Jetsfan11791 · 07-16-2019, 04:54 PM

Where's a good place to get the lt5 tb? Should it be ported?

appleman22 · 07-16-2019, 06:13 PM

You really need to find a good tuner and ask them for their advice in putting together a complete build.

6spdhyperblue · 07-16-2019, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jetsfan11791

Where's a good place to get the lt5 tb? Should it be ported?

IMO it doesn’t. You can always do it later.

Thatgmpartsguy?

7speed · 07-16-2019, 06:57 PM

Imo send msd to pray to get ported. That would be worth more and cost same or less than adding a 95 or 103 tb on stock msd.

wnta1ss · 07-17-2019, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Jetsfan11791

Where's a good place to get the lt5 tb? Should it be ported?

The LT5 tb needs work to fit onto an LT1 manifold. Either the bolt holes need to be machined, or an adapter plate must be made.

As far as what the 95 does, check out Tick's test of unported MSD/unported 95 vs stock, and unported MSD vs stock, it has dyno charts for both https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=535959

G2K · 07-17-2019, 08:48 AM

Make sure you dont have any leaks.... I believe the foam must be removed.. it will leak...

Also, I had a ported oem and went to ported msd... honestly i hated the change because the car felt slower (mid range is very noticable. However, running to equally modded cars (but without the msd) you will see the difference AND its a must have if you plan on going heads/cam in the future. The little bit you gain on top end with the msd isnt that noteable unless you actually are at a drag strip or against another car you ran before.

AlphaCamaro7 · 07-17-2019, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by G2K

Make sure you dont have any leaks.... I believe the foam must be removed.. it will leak...

Also, I had a ported oem and went to ported msd... honestly i hated the change because the car felt slower (mid range is very noticable. However, running to equally modded cars (but without the msd) you will see the difference AND its a must have if you plan on going heads/cam in the future. The little bit you gain on top end with the msd isnt that noteable unless you actually are at a drag strip or against another car you ran before.

so ur recommending stock ported Intake Mani rather than the MSD Mani?

6spdhyperblue · 07-17-2019, 08:58 AM

Msd says to leave the foam on when you call them 5/2019

To me sounded like car feels weaker which makes sense because you feel torque more than horsepower with your ass. If you actually measure the car you will see your ass is wrong and the car is indeed faster.

Umbriel · 07-17-2019, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by 6spdhyperblue

Msd says to leave the foam when you call them 5/2019

To me sounded like car feels weaker which makes sense because you feel torque more than horsepower with your ass. If you actually measure the car you will see your ass is wrong and the car is indeed faster.

Butt dynos are almost always wrong.

6spdhyperblue · 07-17-2019, 10:25 AM

So any info on what the porting on a msd is really worth over a msd/95(just cleaned up- flashing removed)

oldman · 07-17-2019, 11:09 AM

It would be my opinion, that FBO, I'd go with a Pray ported setup, your option for stock ported TB or 95mm (ported or not).

If you are going headers and cam, then ported MSD, ported 95mm would be the way to go.

The middle of road well I will go to heads and cam in the future... hmm, I probably do the Pray ported stuff and then sell.

RobbyBeefcake87 · 07-18-2019, 12:31 AM

You're running the msd on a stock tune without issues or a cel? I was under the impression the msd needed a tune unlike a ported stocker but I am probably wrong.

G2K · 07-18-2019, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by oldman

It would be my opinion, that FBO, I'd go with a Pray ported setup, your option for stock ported TB or 95mm (ported or not).

If you are going headers and cam, then ported MSD, ported 95mm would be the way to go.

The middle of road well I will go to heads and cam in the future... hmm, I probably do the Pray ported stuff and then sell.

This is exactly what I did, used that setup for a long while till i got the ported msd because i was going heads/cam.... which i ended not doing and just go boosted...

oldman · 07-18-2019, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RobbyBeefcake87

You're running the msd on a stock tune without issues or a cel? I was under the impression the msd needed a tune unlike a ported stocker but I am probably wrong.

For about 6 months I ran CA front cat deletes, MSD, CAI and 103 TB, the only change to the program was taking off the monitors to the front 02s. Now it was much quicker after it was tuned by EFI Tuning, I'm just saying it ran fine with the stock tune minus the front 02 monitors.

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G2K @Blackmamba_1LE Drives: 2017 1LE Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: South Florida Posts: 740	Make sure you dont have any leaks.... I believe the foam must be removed.. it will leak... Also, I had a ported oem and went to ported msd... honestly i hated the change because the car felt slower (mid range is very noticable. However, running to equally modded cars (but without the msd) you will see the difference AND its a must have if you plan on going heads/cam in the future. The little bit you gain on top end with the msd isnt that noteable unless you actually are at a drag strip or against another car you ran before. __________________ OG: Pray Perf FBO ET:11.5 @119 THEN:LT4 SC, E85 + Meth :10.6 @135 NOW: H/C Whipple 416ci

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6spdhyperblue Drives: 6th gen Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: US Posts: 3,675	Msd says to leave the foam on when you call them 5/2019 To me sounded like car feels weaker which makes sense because you feel torque more than horsepower with your ass. If you actually measure the car you will see your ass is wrong and the car is indeed faster. Last edited by 6spdhyperblue; 07-17-2019 at 10:23 AM.

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6spdhyperblue Drives: 6th gen Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: US Posts: 3,675	So any info on what the porting on a msd is really worth over a msd/95(just cleaned up- flashing removed) Last edited by 6spdhyperblue; 07-17-2019 at 11:13 AM.

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oldman Drives: SS 6 speed of course Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Hilo, HI Posts: 4,316	It would be my opinion, that FBO, I'd go with a Pray ported setup, your option for stock ported TB or 95mm (ported or not). If you are going headers and cam, then ported MSD, ported 95mm would be the way to go. The middle of road well I will go to heads and cam in the future... hmm, I probably do the Pray ported stuff and then sell. __________________ Forged short block, large duration sub .600 lift Cam Motion cam, 7200 RPM fuel cut, Pray Ported Heads, 3.85 pulley D1X, stage II intercooler, DSX secondary low side, DSX E85 sensor, Lingenfelter big bore 2.0 pump, ported front cats, 60608 Borla, LT4 injectors, ZL1 1LE driveshaft and Katech ported TB, ported MSD intake, BTR valvetrain, ARP studs, ProFlow valves, PS4 tires. Last edited by oldman; 07-17-2019 at 12:36 PM.

07-16-2019, 04:54 PM	#15
Jetsfan11791 Drives: 2017 Camaro SS Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Staten island Posts: 22	Where's a good place to get the lt5 tb? Should it be ported?

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appleman22 Drives: 2017 1ss 1le Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: new york Posts: 436	You really need to find a good tuner and ask them for their advice in putting together a complete build.

07-18-2019, 12:31 AM	#26
RobbyBeefcake87 Drives: 2018 Camaro SS 1LE Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Tampa Florida Posts: 1,980	You're running the msd on a stock tune without issues or a cel? I was under the impression the msd needed a tune unlike a ported stocker but I am probably wrong. __________________ 2000 Miata - aventi storm wheels, roll bar. 2019 Mustang GT pp1 - svt pp2 wheels, mbrp cat back, sync 3 upgrade, p1x procharger + stg2 intercooler. 2018 Colorado zr2 - zr2 sport bar, showcase spare tire. 2018 Camaro SS 1LE - GM cai, black bowties, suede knee bolsters, 1le plate frame, black fuel door, dark tails + 3rd brake light, euro side markers + led's, GM all weather floor mats, velossatech big mouth, GM strut brace. 2017 Corvette Grandsport (sold) - untouched. 2006 GTO (sold) - iat relocation, air box mod, monero side marker lights.

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