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Tajefe Couple · 04-18-2016, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by camaro2lt-15

I came into this thread to see what a LFX engine is?
Now I see that's the stock V6 engine for the '14 - '15 Camaro's
Good Luck to you.
I've wanted a 2010 Synergy Green Camaro ever since I saw one.

LFX's began going in cars for the 2012 model.

alice · 04-18-2016, 03:50 PM

Yes, 2012 and they charged from Bosch to Delphi ECM, which are so much easier to tune, thus extract more HP! Stronger motor, also.

alice · 05-26-2016, 06:04 AM

Just received a new ECM from Vince at Trifecta. He loaded a 2014 base program, Vin matched my LLT and disabled VATS. He is the only programmer I know who has been able to successfully do this without ODB2 access, which will not work from the LLT due to VIN/YEAR difference, thus, server locks out the ability to download a different program from the one allowed for that year and model Camaro.

This has been a long journey getting to this point. Vince was the original tuner for my twin turbo LLT way back in 2010. He is one of the most knowledgeable tuners I have talked to. We have been collaborating about this project for some time now and he told me he was able to do what others have not been able to do. He indicated that theoretically, I should be able to roll the LFX engine/transmission along side my LLT and plug it in and it should start the engine. Once we confirm that this step in the process can be accomplished, we can evaluate any other glitches and/or codes/incompatibilities and move on from that point. As Vince pointed out, even if it starts, we may still not be out of the woods until we know that all the BCM's are happy in the vehicle and proper communications are confirmed. Vince's main concern is the ECBM compatibility with this conversion, so we will see.

Vince is working with me on this project and I feel confident that if this transplant is possible, he will be the genius that makes it happen. He has done programming for me in the past and has always succeeded in dialing things in. I believe that he was the first programmer to crack the LLT/Bosch encrypted ECM and successfully manipulate programming. My twin turbo project was one of the first in 2010 and the program he supplied has flawlessly worked since. Driving on it everyday.

Because a holiday is coming up and my business workload is heavy, my plan is to attempt to give this a try in several weeks. It has taken me almost a year to get to this point so I am not going to rush this. Haste makes waste! I plan to video tape the trail attempt and record data to send back to Vince for evaluation. As Vince indicated, this is a first for a LLT/LFX transplant and uncharted territory for sure, so at this point we can only try it and see what happens. I can't thank Vince enough for taking on this project. In my opinion, if he can't make it work, nobody can!

I am so excited to have arrived at this point. I will keep everyone updated.

Tajefe Couple · 05-26-2016, 06:44 PM

TJ91 · 05-31-2016, 08:55 AM

he disabled vats? Hmmmm this is exciting

alice · 05-31-2016, 06:09 PM

Yep! Disabled VATS, loaded 2014 LFX base program. Unfortunately, my business has suddenly gotten extremely busy and its going to be another couple weeks before I can try it. I probably should buy popcorn for everyone waiting to see if the LFX engine will start when connected to the LLT. I will report yea or nay, just as soon as I get to it. Bear with me.

alice · 06-19-2016, 10:32 AM

Well guys!!! Did the first critical test!!! Plugged the LFX engine into the LLT, connected the fuel and charcoal canister from the LLT to the LFX engine, installed the ECM from Vince at Trifecta and BINGO, got in the car, turned the key and it started and ran perfectly! No major DIC's, no issues other than a few minor ones. This was a total success! Everything performed as Vince had stated. This is a major accomplishment and proves that this transplant is feasible. I will be passing on more information when I get time to compile it. It works!! I will also be posting a video of the actual test in a couple days. Stay tuned. Talk about a HAPPY CAMPER!!!!

crc91 · 06-19-2016, 11:38 AM

Congrats!!!

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1Coopgt · 06-19-2016, 01:49 PM

W4rMach1ne · 06-19-2016, 09:38 PM

Now can you do this for me!? Congrats man

Tajefe Couple · 06-19-2016, 10:17 PM

Patience prevails

JantzenOKC · 06-20-2016, 05:57 AM

That's awesome news!!

arkentect · 06-20-2016, 08:18 AM

Awesome!!!! looks like an LFX and a Twin setup is in the future for me

arkentect · 06-20-2016, 08:18 AM

I guess the real question now is.... does this mean a V8 swap is possible?...

05-26-2016, 06:44 PM	#60
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05-31-2016, 08:55 AM	#61
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06-19-2016, 11:38 AM	#64
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06-19-2016, 01:49 PM	#65
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06-19-2016, 10:17 PM	#67
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04-18-2016, 03:50 PM	#58
alice Drives: 2010 camaro limited edition turbo Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: saint petersburg, florida Posts: 499 View My Garage	Yes, 2012 and they charged from Bosch to Delphi ECM, which are so much easier to tune, thus extract more HP! Stronger motor, also.

05-26-2016, 06:04 AM	#59
alice Drives: 2010 camaro limited edition turbo Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: saint petersburg, florida Posts: 499 View My Garage	Just received a new ECM from Vince at Trifecta. He loaded a 2014 base program, Vin matched my LLT and disabled VATS. He is the only programmer I know who has been able to successfully do this without ODB2 access, which will not work from the LLT due to VIN/YEAR difference, thus, server locks out the ability to download a different program from the one allowed for that year and model Camaro. This has been a long journey getting to this point. Vince was the original tuner for my twin turbo LLT way back in 2010. He is one of the most knowledgeable tuners I have talked to. We have been collaborating about this project for some time now and he told me he was able to do what others have not been able to do. He indicated that theoretically, I should be able to roll the LFX engine/transmission along side my LLT and plug it in and it should start the engine. Once we confirm that this step in the process can be accomplished, we can evaluate any other glitches and/or codes/incompatibilities and move on from that point. As Vince pointed out, even if it starts, we may still not be out of the woods until we know that all the BCM's are happy in the vehicle and proper communications are confirmed. Vince's main concern is the ECBM compatibility with this conversion, so we will see. Vince is working with me on this project and I feel confident that if this transplant is possible, he will be the genius that makes it happen. He has done programming for me in the past and has always succeeded in dialing things in. I believe that he was the first programmer to crack the LLT/Bosch encrypted ECM and successfully manipulate programming. My twin turbo project was one of the first in 2010 and the program he supplied has flawlessly worked since. Driving on it everyday. Because a holiday is coming up and my business workload is heavy, my plan is to attempt to give this a try in several weeks. It has taken me almost a year to get to this point so I am not going to rush this. Haste makes waste! I plan to video tape the trail attempt and record data to send back to Vince for evaluation. As Vince indicated, this is a first for a LLT/LFX transplant and uncharted territory for sure, so at this point we can only try it and see what happens. I can't thank Vince enough for taking on this project. In my opinion, if he can't make it work, nobody can! I am so excited to have arrived at this point. I will keep everyone updated.

05-31-2016, 06:09 PM	#62
alice Drives: 2010 camaro limited edition turbo Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: saint petersburg, florida Posts: 499 View My Garage	Yep! Disabled VATS, loaded 2014 LFX base program. Unfortunately, my business has suddenly gotten extremely busy and its going to be another couple weeks before I can try it. I probably should buy popcorn for everyone waiting to see if the LFX engine will start when connected to the LLT. I will report yea or nay, just as soon as I get to it. Bear with me.

06-19-2016, 10:32 AM	#63
alice Drives: 2010 camaro limited edition turbo Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: saint petersburg, florida Posts: 499 View My Garage	Well guys!!! Did the first critical test!!! Plugged the LFX engine into the LLT, connected the fuel and charcoal canister from the LLT to the LFX engine, installed the ECM from Vince at Trifecta and BINGO, got in the car, turned the key and it started and ran perfectly! No major DIC's, no issues other than a few minor ones. This was a total success! Everything performed as Vince had stated. This is a major accomplishment and proves that this transplant is feasible. I will be passing on more information when I get time to compile it. It works!! I will also be posting a video of the actual test in a couple days. Stay tuned. Talk about a HAPPY CAMPER!!!!

06-19-2016, 09:38 PM	#66
W4rMach1ne Drives: 2011 Camaro LT1 Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Florida, United States Posts: 336 View My Garage	Now can you do this for me!? Congrats man

06-20-2016, 05:57 AM	#68
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06-20-2016, 08:18 AM	#69
arkentect Drives: 2010 Camaro SGM 1LT M6 Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 1,630	Awesome!!!! looks like an LFX and a Twin setup is in the future for me __________________ Arkentect's Build Thread!! - UPSTATE C5 MEMBER 2010 SGM M6 1LT - SOLD Current - 2009 C6 Corvette Z51