[rray200]

Originally Posted by Reaper_HWK

I'm leaning toward the new SS.

However, with the xtra 100hp wouldn't the ZL1 spank the SS in a 50mph to 100mph romp?

Which one has more "throw you in the seat" if you gun it at 60mph?

One of my very best friends has a 2015 ZL1 which I drove and loved it. Then I got myself a 2018 2SS 1LE last summer and the performance is pretty much identical according to my butt dyno. But the 5th gen ZL1 is a bigger and roomier car than the 6th gen, has more storage space, bigger trunk and is definitely a more comfortable daily driver, especially for bigger, taller people. As much as I love my 6th gen SS 1LE, I find it harder to get in and out of than my 2014 Mustang GT and my good friend's 5th gen ZL1.

[HyperBlu17]

My credit union would only finance back to 2014 and me personally hated the rear end styling on the 14-15 ZL1's. I had a 13' ZL1 and that's what I wanted, I saw the new 19' SS and didn't like that either so after that there was one logical choice. I found a great deal on a 17' ZL1. Like stated above though, the ZL1 def has the rarity factor and although same power levels as a new SS is already boosted so exhaust and some pulley changes can be making way more power for cheaper, just my .02

[rshelar]

The bigger question is 5 or 6 gen. These vehicles are like apples and oranges. It’s true that the gen 6 is smaller but otherwise has been improved in every way. I recently sold my 15 SS and bought a 17 SS and love it. That LT1 is fab with a Magnaflow axle back!


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[RyanR623]

Originally Posted by rshelar

The bigger question is 5 or 6 gen. These vehicles are like apples and oranges. It’s true that the gen 6 is smaller but otherwise has been improved in every way. I recently sold my 15 SS and bought a 17 SS and love it. That LT1 is fab with a Magnaflow axle back!


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6TH gen is 200lbs lighter than a 5th gen (SS to SS), the alpha chassis is world's better than the zeta so it will handle much better, ride better etc, and the 6th gen has more horsepower while getting better fuel mileage. To me that's not even a question unless you can't afford 6th gen, but they aren't that much different in price.

[cleoent]

The biggest factor no one has mentioned is how long do you plan on keeping the car? The SS will depreciate like a freight train, the ZL1 will not.

If you plan to sell in the next couple of years, can you take the hit on a new car?

You could also get a better looking 2019 SS for less money by buying a used 2017/18 1LE. That to me would be the sweet spot. Depreciation has happened, same performance as ZL1 and 19 SS, without the hideousness that is the 2019.

[Reaper_HWK]

I plan to run the car into the ground, I don't sell cars. Depreciation is not a huge factor just want something I love and will last.

My truck is a 2006 F150 bought new, still looks and works great. Has 180k miles, looking to get a good 20 years out of it (goal anyway). I'll rebuild the engine when it goes.

The car I would keep a minimum of 10 yrs. THis is one reason I'm leaning toward the new car. The ZL1 would already have 6 years on it, but I guess if it's solid (no rust, low miles) it would be OK.

The camaro would get around 15k miles/yr on it. Mostly highway.

[Laststandard]

17-18 1SS 1LE's seem to be going for around 34-38k depending on mileage.

I seem to be the outlier here, but I really dislike the 5th gen styling. Love the 6th gen, though.

[Reaper_HWK]

Originally Posted by Laststandard

17-18 1SS 1LE's seem to be going for around 34-38k depending on mileage.

I seem to be the outlier here, but I really dislike the 5th gen styling. Love the 6th gen, though.

6th gen is more refined and looks closer to a vette, more like a sports car.

To me the 5th gen looks more boxy and brutish, like a muscle car.

I like them both.

[protovack]

Go with the 2019 1SS you won't regret it. I would definitely not spend 35k on a 6 year old car, no matter how powerful it is. The 1SS will be a much better car in all ways.

[redcoats1976]

this would be a tough choice,maybe you should check out the ZL-1 prices/mileage and compare them to what the newer SS would cost.or how about a year old SS CPO car if you can find one you like and save a significant amount of money.

[Bosse'sBoss]

Originally Posted by Reaper_HWK

So after weeks of searching what I want to get with my 35k, I've kicked several options around but am down to these 2 fine automobiles. I threw out the challenger because it's just big and dated styling to me, BMW M3 is nice but I really want a muscle car, and mustangs don't have any appeal to me.

So, here we are:

1)5th gen ZL1(probably 2013)
2)6th gen 2019 1SS(would like to get a 1LE if I find a deal somewhere)

What would be your suggetions? This would be a daily driver. I have an F150 that I would drive though in the rain/snow. The camaro would be doing 75% of my driving.

I think that the ZL1 is more rare, would have some awesome supercharger whine, and looks pretty mean overall. I also hear it can be modified to put up some crazy HP for cheap. Cons are it's 6 years old, will have like 30k miles, who knows if the previous owner beat it, and probably would be a beast to maintain/repair. Also looks a little dated compared to new SS.

The new SS would look great, be BRAND new with warranty, and is close to the performance of the ZL1. Cons are it's not a ZL1, not supercharged, and definately not as rare.

Anyone own both? Anyone have comments?

I owned both, go for the 6th gen SS or better the SS1LE. Much better performance, lighter and great handling Alpha Chassis. The 5th gen ZL1 has a great Muscle car look, better space in the rear seat and a bulletproof powertrain, but its performance is behind the 6th gen Camaros.

[Bosse'sBoss]

Originally Posted by Fraxum

I have owned both. While the newer SS is a better performance car overall, stock they both are equal in speed, stock to stock same transmission.

But the ZL1 has more of the old school vibes, Better looking (only by a little, IMO), has more room inside, and will hold its value much better, and be better equipped than a 1SS. The SS will get better gas milage.

ZL1 by a mile. Especially considering depreciation and the more exclusive ZL1 factor. A much smarter buy. I prefer the '14-15. The tail lights look great to me and the infotainment is better on the 14-15.

On the '14-'15 ZL1 the HUD was improved (color) and a failure on the '12-'13 SC was fixed.

[Idaho2018GTPremium]

Originally Posted by GearheadSS

The gth gen 1LE weighs about 400 pounds less than the 5th gen ZL1 so that will come into play as well.

The '12 ZL1 is actually only 263 lbs. heavier than an A10 '19 SS ('19 A10 SS is 3,788 lbs per Car and Driver test data, vs. 4,051 lbs '12 ZL1 per Motor Trend test data). The '12 ZL1 is barely 100 lbs heavier than the 6th gen ZL1. It's no Hellcat that's for sure (4,445 lbs). The 5th gen ZL1 has a significantly better lbs:hp ratio than the '19 SS A10:

'12 ZL1: 6.98 lbs/hp
'19 SS: 8.33 lbs/hp

The '19 SS would need another 88 hp (543 hp in a 3,788 lbs SS, per Car and Driver '19 A10 test data) to match the ZL1 lbs to hp ratio.

I theorize the '19 SS is nearly identical in the 1/4 mile and 0-60 because of traction control and the A10 (and rev match for the M6), and likely a more efficient drive train putting more effective % of the crank power to the wheels. I looked at acceleration times between the '19 A10 SS and the '12 ZL1 and they were nearly identical: the ZL1 was only 0.1 second faster to 60 mph (3.8 sec vs 3.9), to 100 mph (8.7 sec vs 8.8) and in the 1/4 mile (12.1 vs 12.2). I think the manual SS is a tenth or two slower in each of those vs. the A10 SS, but almost as fast. Trap speed in the M6 is definitely lower (115 mph vs. 118 mph). The 5th gen ZL1 traps around 118 mph.

It baffles my mind that a car with that significant of a lbs:hp ratio advantage is barely quicker than the much less powerful car. If you were to add 88 hp to the '19 SS, it would flat out destroy the 5th gen ZL1.

So, to me, I would pick the '19 SS over the ZL1 - likely safer, newer (obviously), nicer interior, warranty, probably better gas mileage (I haven't confirmed), more modern tech., and with full bolt-ons would be quicker than the supercharged 5th gen ZL1.

[hotlap]

The gen5 ZL1 curb weight started at 4,120 lb