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Old 04-18-2016, 09:52 AM   #1
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6M shifting question/ possible issue??

So I'm not new to the manual thing. but it has been about 4 good years since I've driven one. Like riding a bike, you just dont' forget. I now have about 220 miles on my car and had it now for about 3 weeks (finding every excuse to drive it). During my "break in period" I'm very careful on what I do because I plan on keeping this car for the long haul. so.....

when shifting from 1st to 2nd or 2nd to 3rd I gradually release the clutch when its say coming from 1st to 2econd. (gas off rpms seem to have settled) the trans makes a clunking feeling/noise. wondering if that's normal. but when shifting quickly the rpm's I feel don't seem to settle and the clunking feeling/noise is not there. why would this be?? I guess I'm not one to beat on my car so slamming it into gears is not my forte..

I surly hope this makes sense.
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Old 04-18-2016, 10:16 AM   #2
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A manual transmission will have more noise as it is mechanical. Gears whine, sifter handles vibrate and shake etc. I would have to hear it or see a video to determine what is going on. Also in the older days of manual transmissions you had to match rpm to the gear. If you ever drove a semi this becomes alot more vital. The newer cars not as bad but still a good practice to keep rpms where they should be when you shift. I think a brand new transmission you will see more problems not shifting correctly. You also have 220 miles on a manual car. Every car shifts different and the learning curve takes some time. My bet is everything is fine and remember break in is also for your transmission and rear end. Need time for the clutch to bed in like brakes and rear ends.

Although, Do not be afraid to drop the clutch and let the car go sideways every once in awhile. Remember they are guaranteed now even for track duty! LOL Leave traction control on and drop the clutch with some pedal. The car slips just enough with traction control to let you have fun and not trash your car. If you take traction controll off better be a good driver because it will easily break lose and toast the stock rubber. Just my antidote not saying every one should I guess.
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Old 04-18-2016, 10:27 AM   #3
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Don't ride the clutch when shifting. At all. It's either on or off. Not in the middle.

If you are letting the RPMs settle down to idle and then clutching out it could me causing the transmission to rapidly jump up in speed to match the MPH the car is travelling. Also try to rev match.
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Old 04-18-2016, 10:37 AM   #4
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Don't ride the clutch when shifting. At all. It's either on or off. Not in the middle.

If you are letting the RPMs settle down to idle and then clutching out it could me causing the transmission to rapidly jump up in speed to match the MPH the car is travelling. Also try to rev match.

sorta what is sounds like. maybe just the fact that I'm 37 and taking my sweet time shifting.. when I should be not shifting like a grandma... I've had show cars and each one of them I was very anal about. I guess this is no different. and I riding the clutch is one "no no" that I dont' do.
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Old 04-18-2016, 10:38 AM   #5
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A manual transmission will have more noise as it is mechanical. Gears whine, sifter handles vibrate and shake etc. I would have to hear it or see a video to determine what is going on. Also in the older days of manual transmissions you had to match rpm to the gear. If you ever drove a semi this becomes alot more vital. The newer cars not as bad but still a good practice to keep rpms where they should be when you shift. I think a brand new transmission you will see more problems not shifting correctly. You also have 220 miles on a manual car. Every car shifts different and the learning curve takes some time. My bet is everything is fine and remember break in is also for your transmission and rear end. Need time for the clutch to bed in like brakes and rear ends.

Although, Do not be afraid to drop the clutch and let the car go sideways every once in awhile. Remember they are guaranteed now even for track duty! LOL Leave traction control on and drop the clutch with some pedal. The car slips just enough with traction control to let you have fun and not trash your car. If you take traction controll off better be a good driver because it will easily break lose and toast the stock rubber. Just my antidote not saying every one should I guess.
good call on all! and yes, good to hear that GM will warranty even when tracked!
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Old 04-22-2016, 08:23 AM   #6
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I'm also experiencing the same shuddering noises. Even shifting the gears before I let the clutch out makes a clicking noise. Seems like every movement is audible, hot or cold. I know it didn't make these noises at the dealership when I test drove it. Hopefuly, it's just because it's loosening up/braking in, but most concerning to me, about 3 or 4 times now, it won't allow me to up-shift into second gear. I think, in the 1.5-3k RPM range.
Had to move it into another gear, then back before it would accept.

I still need it to happen a few more times for me to see a pattern/problem before I take it in. Otherwise, knowing my luck, they won't be able to replicate it.
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Old 04-22-2016, 09:34 AM   #7
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, but most concerning to me, about 3 or 4 times now, it won't allow me to up-shift into second gear. I think, in the 1.5-3k RPM range.
Had to move it into another gear, then back before it would accept.

I still need it to happen a few more times for me to see a pattern/problem before I take it in. Otherwise, knowing my luck, they won't be able to replicate it.
There is nothing wrong with your car this is CAGS (Computer aided Gear Selection) kicking in and forcing you into 4th rather than second. This only happens within a very narrow range of RPM's and conditions. (It's an emissions/fuel feature designed to get the car to pass certain Federal tests) If you don't like it, either drive through that range so it doesn't kick in, or put in a <$20 CAGS Eliminator. Lots of info here on the forum for disabling this.

More info: http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=440626
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Old 04-22-2016, 10:33 AM   #8
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Just ordered one. Thank you.
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Old 10-29-2019, 12:20 PM   #9
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I have a 2018 camaro ss

I am having same 2nd gear issue. One the customer got it fixed and found out that is a defective transmission housing. Here is the link to the video. https://youtu.be/FxngwiF7_Wg

GM knows about it but they are telling their dealer to tell customers that it is normal. Everybody, we need to report this issue to NHTSA.gov. Here is the link for that https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/VehicleComplaint/

All these camaoros have defected transmision housing which is causing multiple symtoms. For example, hard to shift to 2nd when upshift or downsift, 2nd gear popping out and shift into neutral, missing 2nd gear and sometime grinding.
I spoke to 2 dealers and they both have different openion. One says that i need skip shift eliminater and the other one says that it is normal to have symtoms like that also Advised me not to use the 2nd gear. Which is bad beacuse we spent a fortune buying this car and then we are unable the use 2nd gear.

Please everybody, go NHTSA website and file a complain because they are not going to fix it until government institution files a lawsuit against GM
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