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cferreira11 · 03-14-2020, 04:29 PM

Hi Everyone,
Performed an oil change today (around 3k miles), and when pulling off my drain plug, these were attached to the magnetic end. Anyone know what’s going on? What these can be?

CamaroBarb · 03-14-2020, 04:32 PM

Stock rocker came apart. Pull valve cover look for needle bearings etc and replace broken rocker.. Drain oil and fish out all the needle bearing with a magnet. Its common on all the LS engines.

pnwdan · 03-14-2020, 04:39 PM

Yep he nailed it. If I remember right, there are 22 needle bearings in each side of the rocker. Pull the valve covers and inspect. You'll have needle bearings everywhere. there is a service bulletin from GM about this. Basically says to clean out what you can and leave the rest since they wont go through the pickup screen. Now's a good time to replace the rocker trunions with aftermarket ones. Also, get a magnet and fish down in the lifter trays. I found several in mine. It's been 2 oil changes later and I still find them in the pan. I use a magnet to drag them to the opening and extract them

cferreira11 · 03-14-2020, 06:01 PM

Thank you both for the help. Since this is all new to me, any thoughts on aftermarket parts I should order?

Sinister10 · 03-15-2020, 02:28 PM

how many miles on engine?

InFiD3ViL · 03-15-2020, 03:04 PM

I recently installed the CHE bushing set, which replaces the stock roller bearings with brass bushings for $200. Very easy install and I bought a Harbor Freight Arbor press for $60 that made pressing out the old bearings super easy.

The new bushings get held in place by snap rings and don't need to be pressed in.

BAD DAB · 03-15-2020, 03:39 PM

How common is this and at what mileage?

cferreira11 · 03-15-2020, 04:20 PM

Engine has 44k miles. So I took the valve covers off and looked at the rockers. None of them are broken. I should have taken a photo, but I wanted to see how bad it was. All rockers look good. A few were a little loose, nothing crazy. I took a screen photo of a rocker arm and pointed to where mine broke. Looks like it was the outer portion of the bearing/trunnion. I ordered a new set to replace the old ones and will do that this week. Name: ABF63ECA-879A-4453-B5BE-F5F8F8AB008A.jpg
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Aqua Blue RS/SS · 03-15-2020, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InFiD3ViL

I recently installed the CHE bushing set, which replaces the stock roller bearings with brass bushings for $200. Very easy install and I bought a Harbor Freight Arbor press for $60 that made pressing out the old bearings super easy.

The new bushings get held in place by snap rings and don't need to be pressed in.

What’s the service life of the brass bushings?

Moto-Mojo · 03-15-2020, 05:44 PM

On this day of national prayer and reflection, I’d find that shit in my oil truly horrifying! The stock motor has no better parts than this? In the Driveline world where I live, we consider needle bearings far superior to bushings. I’m torn on the idea.

For example, bushings have been tried and used in universal joints over time. Needles still rule.

2013ZL1FUN · 03-15-2020, 05:55 PM

Are you the original owner/buyer of this car? If not, maybe previous owner had an issue with valve train?

InFiD3ViL · 03-15-2020, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aqua Blue RS/SS

What’s the service life of the brass bushings?

You know, I have absolutely no idea. Looks like I have some research to do tonight. I do know that they have oil channels in them though.

DBHWT · 03-15-2020, 07:19 PM

Thank you to all for the good info..very good thread

Aqua Blue RS/SS · 03-15-2020, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InFiD3ViL

You know, I have absolutely no idea. Looks like I have some research to do tonight. I do know that they have oil channels in them though.

Gotcha me too! I’ve seen a few of these rocker bearing failure threads and it makes me want to Bush mine and not have to worry about it.

03-14-2020, 04:29 PM	#1
cferreira11 Drives: 2014 Camaro SS Join Date: May 2017 Location: CT Posts: 11	What’s In My Oil Hi Everyone, Performed an oil change today (around 3k miles), and when pulling off my drain plug, these were attached to the magnetic end. Anyone know what’s going on? What these can be? Attached Images

03-14-2020, 04:39 PM	#3
pnwdan Drives: 2014 2SS/RS Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Washington Posts: 848	Yep he nailed it. If I remember right, there are 22 needle bearings in each side of the rocker. Pull the valve covers and inspect. You'll have needle bearings everywhere. there is a service bulletin from GM about this. Basically says to clean out what you can and leave the rest since they wont go through the pickup screen. Now's a good time to replace the rocker trunions with aftermarket ones. Also, get a magnet and fish down in the lifter trays. I found several in mine. It's been 2 oil changes later and I still find them in the pan. I use a magnet to drag them to the opening and extract them __________________ 2014 2SS/RS LS3/M6

03-15-2020, 02:28 PM	#5
Sinister10 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Indiana Posts: 543	how many miles on engine? __________________ 2010 2SS/RS 6M, MGW flatstick, CAI cold air intake, SLP loudmouth 2 axleback, TSP 1 7/8 headers w/ hfc, pfadt 1" springs, SRP pedals, emblempros "6.2L" emblems on hood, ZL1 grill, M/T SC-5 wheels, nitto motivo 275f 315r. ZL1 addons wickerbill, smoked lenses, resonator delete x pipe, diode dynamics DRLs 1LE suede steering wheel, mighty mouse CC. SCTX4 and Dyno Steve tune.

03-15-2020, 03:04 PM	#6
InFiD3ViL Drives: 2010 CGM 2SS/RS LS3 Swapped A6 Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Spring Hill, FL Posts: 4,570	I recently installed the CHE bushing set, which replaces the stock roller bearings with brass bushings for $200. Very easy install and I bought a Harbor Freight Arbor press for $60 that made pressing out the old bearings super easy. The new bushings get held in place by snap rings and don't need to be pressed in. __________________ 2010 CGM Camaro 2SS LS3 Swapped A6 - GPI LS3 SS1 .647/.638, (224/237, 112 +4, 7º overlap) on CamMotion 8620 core, BTR Platinum .660" Dual Spring kit w/titanium retainers, CHE bronze trunnion upgrade, stock heads milled @ .015, Melling HV 10296 oil pump, TSP 1-7/8" long tube headers (W/Catless Off-road Pipes), Corsa Xtreme 3" Catback, GPI Ported/Rod Mod Intake, Stage 2 Ported Throttle Body, Vararam OTR CAI, Mike Norris Gen 2 catch can + GM 1LE clean side separator, 160º thermostat - Megan Racing adjustable coilovers (lowered 1.75"), MRR M017 10/11" wheels-Tuned by Ryan @ GPI

03-15-2020, 03:39 PM	#7
BAD DAB Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Black & Silver Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 8,228 View My Garage	How common is this and at what mileage? __________________ STAINLESS WORKS HEADERS-TUNED BY JANNETTY RACING-C.A.I. INTAKE-TAYLOR 409 WIRES-SOLO AXLE BACK EXHAUST-ELITE CATCH CAN

03-14-2020, 04:32 PM	#2
CamaroBarb Banned Drives: cheby Camaro Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: usa Posts: 575	Stock rocker came apart. Pull valve cover look for needle bearings etc and replace broken rocker.. Drain oil and fish out all the needle bearing with a magnet. Its common on all the LS engines.

03-14-2020, 06:01 PM	#4
cferreira11 Drives: 2014 Camaro SS Join Date: May 2017 Location: CT Posts: 11	Thank you both for the help. Since this is all new to me, any thoughts on aftermarket parts I should order?

03-15-2020, 04:20 PM	#8
cferreira11 Drives: 2014 Camaro SS Join Date: May 2017 Location: CT Posts: 11	Engine has 44k miles. So I took the valve covers off and looked at the rockers. None of them are broken. I should have taken a photo, but I wanted to see how bad it was. All rockers look good. A few were a little loose, nothing crazy. I took a screen photo of a rocker arm and pointed to where mine broke. Looks like it was the outer portion of the bearing/trunnion. I ordered a new set to replace the old ones and will do that this week.

03-15-2020, 05:44 PM	#10
Moto-Mojo Fast Cars and Old Guitars Drives: 2015 2SS RS (L99, baby!) Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: N. CA Posts: 3,973	On this day of national prayer and reflection, I’d find that shit in my oil truly horrifying! The stock motor has no better parts than this? In the Driveline world where I live, we consider needle bearings far superior to bushings. I’m torn on the idea. For example, bushings have been tried and used in universal joints over time. Needles still rule. __________________ “I don’t want to belong to any club that would have me as a member.” - Groucho Marx

03-15-2020, 05:55 PM	#11
2013ZL1FUN Drives: 2013 ZL1 Convertible A6 BRM Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Dayton Ohio Area Posts: 499	Are you the original owner/buyer of this car? If not, maybe previous owner had an issue with valve train? __________________ 2013 ZL1 CONVERTIBLE BRM A6 OHIO

03-15-2020, 07:19 PM	#13
DBHWT Drives: 2013 SS 1LE Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Cincinnati / N KY area Posts: 559	Thank you to all for the good info..very good thread