Black Wheels Update

mekirk2 · 12-11-2016, 11:23 PM

Got a call from the dealer last week - service manager asked me to bring the camaro by when I had a chance. Chevy has approved replacing the wheels - he just needs to look at them again to see which wheels to order. The rears have gotten worse since I originally took it in.

Only 3900 miles on it and I've had it about 3 months. I was surprised it took Chevy so long to make a decision but I'm glad they are taking care of it. Not really their fault - the wheels looked fine when I bought the car so their quality inspections wouldnt have found it. I just hope my next set come from a different manufacturing run at their vendor.....

Mojave · 12-12-2016, 12:03 AM

Thats is good to know. Mine are looking very poor

airems · 12-12-2016, 12:16 AM

Gloss can be waxed and polished when they are scuffed or scratched, Matte ones, well good luck with touching those up.

Love the look, hate the upkeep.

Hekate1 · 12-12-2016, 04:20 AM

Has this been a problem for many? I have the same wheels. So far they still look new after 17k miles. Hope I don't start having the same issue.

Hock23 · 12-12-2016, 06:54 AM

What about black powdercoated rims? I had black powdercoated rims on my old Tiburon and never had a problem with them looking dull.

ModdedSS · 12-12-2016, 08:15 AM

Powdercoating is always the best route to go. Much more durable finish over paint

terri_Lovehands · 12-12-2016, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ModdedSS

Powdercoating is always the best route to go. Much more durable finish over paint

does powder coating make the wheels more brittle/weaker? I've heard people say you shouldn't track powder coated wheels because of how it makes the wheels weaker.

Hock23 · 12-12-2016, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by terri_Lovehands

does powder coating make the wheels more brittle/weaker? I've heard people say you shouldn't track powder coated wheels because of how it makes the wheels weaker.

Yeah, i've heard that baking the wheels weakens the integrity of the wheels, can anyone confirm?

Wagnbat · 12-12-2016, 09:36 AM

Sounds hokey... But it would depend on the metal/alloy in the wheels. A quick google search shows that powder coat typically cures at about 400-450 degrees.

One would reasonably assume that forged wheels are forged at a much higher temperature... Stainless steel, bronze, copper, and aluminum all have melting points of 950 degrees and above.

Melting Points: http://www.onlinemetals.com/meltpt.cfm

Tin is not listed, but it has a melting point of 450 degrees. So if tin (or similar low melting point metal or bonding material) is one of the metals used in the forging/fabrication process... Then yes, those wheels would likely suffer during the powder coating curing process.

Glen e · 12-12-2016, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by terri_Lovehands

does powder coating make the wheels more brittle/weaker? I've heard people say you shouldn't track powder coated wheels because of how it makes the wheels weaker.

This is been discussed in practically every forum I've ever been on. The consensus is any good powder coater will not have to heat the wheel enough to make it brittle or a problem. This is also the answer I asked of Forgeline, one of the best wheel makers in the business, when I bought mine.

12-11-2016, 11:23 PM	#1
mekirk2 Drives: 2016 2SS Ragtop Garnet Red Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Alabama Posts: 447	Black Wheels Update Got a call from the dealer last week - service manager asked me to bring the camaro by when I had a chance. Chevy has approved replacing the wheels - he just needs to look at them again to see which wheels to order. The rears have gotten worse since I originally took it in. Only 3900 miles on it and I've had it about 3 months. I was surprised it took Chevy so long to make a decision but I'm glad they are taking care of it. Not really their fault - the wheels looked fine when I bought the car so their quality inspections wouldnt have found it. I just hope my next set come from a different manufacturing run at their vendor.....

12-12-2016, 12:03 AM	#2
Mojave San Diego Head Tuners Drives: 2016 Camaro 1SS ,NPP,MagRide, A8 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Temecula, CA Posts: 2,440 View My Garage	Thats is good to know. Mine are looking very poor __________________ 2016 1SS A8, NPP, MagRide, Black Rims My 5th Camaro (3 Gen5, 1 Gen4) Member of San Diego Head Tuners https://www.youtube.com/c/MojaveKY https://www.instagram.com/mojaveky/ https://twitter.com/MojaveKY http://dinowax.refr.cc/bryanm 15% off DinoWax orders

12-12-2016, 12:16 AM	#3
airems Drives: 2016 Camaro 1SS Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Show Low, AZ Posts: 9	Black wheels are a nightmare to keep looking good. Gloss can be waxed and polished when they are scuffed or scratched, Matte ones, well good luck with touching those up. Love the look, hate the upkeep.

12-12-2016, 08:15 AM	#6
ModdedSS Drives: 2017 Camaro SS 1LE Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 148	Powdercoating is always the best route to go. Much more durable finish over paint __________________ Show: C7 Carbon ZL1 Front Splitter/C7 Carbon ZL1 Side Skirts/Diode Dynamics LED Sidemarkers/Tinted Headlights, Fog Lights, and Rear Reflectors/20" Forgestar F14's in Bronze Burst Go: 17" Forgestar F14s in Bronze Burst with Hoosier Drag Radials/Rotofab Intake w/ Dry Filter/EFI Flex Fuel Kit/Kooks 2" Longtubes with Offroad Connections/PRAY Performance Ported Intake Manifold/PRAY Performance Ported Throttle Body/PRAY Performance Ported Heads/PRAY Performance Tune Suspension: Phastek Lowering Springs/BMR Toe Rods/BMR Control Arms/BMR Trailing Arms/BMR Strut Tower Brace

12-12-2016, 04:20 AM	#4
Hekate1 Drives: 2020 2SS 1LE Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Central Texas Posts: 227	Has this been a problem for many? I have the same wheels. So far they still look new after 17k miles. Hope I don't start having the same issue.

12-12-2016, 06:54 AM	#5
Hock23 Drives: Black 2016 RS Join Date: May 2016 Location: Kentucky Posts: 54	What about black powdercoated rims? I had black powdercoated rims on my old Tiburon and never had a problem with them looking dull.

12-12-2016, 09:36 AM	#9
Wagnbat Drives: 16 Mosaic Black 2SS Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Snohomish, WA Posts: 31	Sounds hokey... But it would depend on the metal/alloy in the wheels. A quick google search shows that powder coat typically cures at about 400-450 degrees. One would reasonably assume that forged wheels are forged at a much higher temperature... Stainless steel, bronze, copper, and aluminum all have melting points of 950 degrees and above. Melting Points: http://www.onlinemetals.com/meltpt.cfm Tin is not listed, but it has a melting point of 450 degrees. So if tin (or similar low melting point metal or bonding material) is one of the metals used in the forging/fabrication process... Then yes, those wheels would likely suffer during the powder coating curing process.

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