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Old 04-25-2017, 01:59 PM   #29
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This gen looks bad, thats why it does not sell.
But till the next gen, there some things they can improve now.

First, they MUST get rid of that ugly butt. The tail lights and the rear bumper must be redesigned. It should be more expressive/dynamic.
Btw, look at the last chevy's concept(FNR-X).There are some parts they can use for the MCE. For example, the tail lights. I think they look quite good on that concept.
Secondly, Camaro must get the full led headlights.
Would be good to see some changes in the interior as well.

What do you guys expect from the MCE?
Go back to M6G mr ONE post.....

I get so many more looks and thumbs ups in my gen 6 then in my 5.0...and way more than I ever got in my gen 5. I think the gen 6 looks great, nice and aggressive compared to the gen 5.

FYI, sales are down for ALL cars. It's all over the news.
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Old 04-25-2017, 02:08 PM   #30
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With those clearer spy shots, its a lot easier to see behind the fake structures that they're using to cover the nose.

I *think* I see what appear to be two protruding areas on either side of the car under the headlights. I hope they aren't again taking a design cue from Michael Bay (or vice-versa, he probably gets early access to design sketches.)

Somebody should contact that guy from a couple years ago who almost perfectly rendered the original 6th gen just based on spy shots. His work is needed again. :P



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Old 04-25-2017, 02:27 PM   #31
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Well I live in NorCal and I rarely see the new Camaro. The sales lots are full of em and that's a shame. I see Mustangs out here like 50 to 1. Believe it or not ...Tesla's, Mustang's and the Toyota Prius are the most popular cars out here in my opinion.

Look I feel unique when I'm riding around in a SixGen but at the same time you gotta feel bad for the Dealers because I think people are just bigger fans of the Ford Mustang in Cali. Even online it says like the Mustangs are in the top ten as most popular car to drive in CA.
California gives big rebates to electric and hybrid owners. So it's really not a surprise there are so many of them.
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Old 04-25-2017, 02:27 PM   #32
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that thing is garbage
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Old 04-25-2017, 02:30 PM   #33
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I was thinking this:

The 5th gen resembled or pays homage to the 1st gen (retro look)
The 6th gen resembled or pays homage to the 2nd gen
So maybe the refresh or 7th gen (?) will resemble the 3rd gen. The front end looks square *ish* like the 3rd gen.

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Old 04-25-2017, 02:33 PM   #34
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Maybe don't jack the prices up than crash them end of the year vs the mustang is a easier price point and more stable w discounts also do better advertising this car mauls but ads look ehhhh
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Old 04-25-2017, 02:53 PM   #35
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With those clearer spy shots, its a lot easier to see behind the fake structures that they're using to cover the nose.

I *think* I see what appear to be two protruding areas on either side of the car under the headlights. I hope they aren't again taking a design cue from Michael Bay (or vice-versa, he probably gets early access to design sketches.)

I believe the 6th gen Camaro was already out and showed to the public before Michael Bay made his Transformers Camaro Bumblebee Model. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure he didn't scetch that photo just from spy shots. Again, I could be wrong. So I apologize in advance if so.
Somebody should contact that guy from a couple years ago who almost perfectly rendered the original 6th gen just based on spy shots. His work is needed again. :P



I believe the 6th gen Camaro was already out and showed to the public before Michael Bay made his Transformers Camaro Bumblebee Model. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure he didn't scetch that photo just from spy shots. Again, I could be wrong. So I apologize in advance if so.
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Old 04-25-2017, 02:53 PM   #36
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Too bad they added so much fake padding the front and the rear fenders, that there's no way to tell anything from it

This pic clearly shows a new licence platte part, a better fitting spoiler and a more simple line under the rear lights.



I tried to edit that changes on a current 6th gen:
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Old 04-25-2017, 02:54 PM   #37
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Why refresh so soon? Bad sales?
No. It's normal timing. I just retired from GM Product Planning. Been in the Product Planning world since 1993. It's not just a GM thing, so I feel like I can say this without giving away any GM secrets. When a new vehicle launches (Gen 6 in 2016) you typically see a "mild refresh" or "mid-cycle enhancement" three years after launch.

The planning work for the refresh literally begins BEFORE the new model hits the streets. In other words, planning for the mid-cycle on Gen 6 STARTED before any of you touched a Gen 6. When the camo'd vehicles take the streets, it is to get real world instrumentation of how the various new content behaves in the real world. Before that, a ton of analysis is done in simulation.

If something new hits the street, assume the fundamentals of the design and powertrain were locked in 2 - 3 years ago.
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you're probably not going to see 10 year model cycle's anymore so if Camaro6 goes 6-7 years the 4th year would be halfway through.
also the current Camaro is beautiful so a mild refresh to the front end isn't going to dramatically increase sales. i hope they don't change that beautiful hood.
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Old 04-25-2017, 03:13 PM   #39
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Go back to M6G mr ONE post.....

I get so many more looks and thumbs ups in my gen 6 then in my 5.0...and way more than I ever got in my gen 5. I think the gen 6 looks great, nice and aggressive compared to the gen 5.

FYI, sales are down for ALL cars. It's all over the news.
I lol'd when I read that first sentence. Me too, I get way more looks and compliments in my 1LE than I did in my 14 or 15 5.0s.
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Old 04-25-2017, 03:16 PM   #40
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Front makes me think Pontiac Grand Am'esqe
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Old 04-25-2017, 03:46 PM   #41
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Yaay, the Ford guys are coming out in full force saying the refresh is because of bad sales.. Even though It's pretty much the industry standard and 6th gen Mustang is getting one at same point in its life.
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Old 04-25-2017, 03:54 PM   #42
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I'm pretty sure I'm 80% on spot with the rear lines. Too bad they really went crazy with the front end camo
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