Al O. believes ZL1 still faster

[Deki]

Originally Posted by radz28

However - I think it speaks about those who are making our cars. They are PASSIONATE. I also think that Ford was a little out of line when they stole the thunder. That's what's irked me more. I hate bickering, and seeing it in politics, this time of year, especially. This isn't nearly as bad, but it gets close to getting too close, lol.

I don't think Ford did anything to try and steals Chevy's thunder. They announced the specs before the LA auto show, like they do every year.

[MauriSSio]

Originally Posted by Mr T

I bet the 13 GT500 with all the track goodies (track pak/performance pak)is 10K over the ZL1

I bet it will cost more, maybe 5k more. You have to pay for all that extra power.

[MauriSSio]

Originally Posted by Deki

I don't think Ford did anything to try and steals Chevy's thunder. They announced the specs before the LA auto show, like they do every year.

It looked on purpose to me. They would have released more info at the time but threw out the most important numbers.

[Deki]

Originally Posted by MauriSSio

It looked on purpose to me. They would have released more info at the time but threw out the most important numbers.

They released the rest of the specs at the auto show a few days later. Ford has been doing their preliminary spec releases before the LA Auto Show for a while, but I can see how it might appear that way.

[MauriSSio]

Originally Posted by Deki

They released the rest of the specs at the auto show a few days later. Ford has been doing their preliminary spec releases before the LA Auto Show for a while, but I can see how it might appear that way.

Oh I see, you'd probably know more than I would

[The IOM Ninja]

Originally Posted by MauriSSio

I bet it will cost more, maybe 5k more. You have to pay for all that extra power.

Oh you mean like the people that bought the 2011 5.0 GT had to over the 2010?


Oh wait......

[MauriSSio]

Originally Posted by The IOM Ninja

Oh you mean like the people that bought the 2011 5.0 GT had to over the 2010?


Oh wait......

lol good point, but those 2010 guys payed a premium to be the first to buy the newly styled mustang though. you might be right though, maybe the gt500 won't cost THAT much more, who knows,i dont know?

[htron50]

The current 500's are upper 50's by the time you add anything to them..... talk 65+ by the time it's "ZL1-Able"

[GT5Junkie]

Originally Posted by htron50

The current 500's are upper 50's by the time you add anything to them..... talk 65+ by the time it's "ZL1-Able"

If by "anything" you mean "everything" which includes the 2000 dollar glass roof and the 2340 dollar electronics package.

In reality, I paid just over 49,100 OTD for my 2012 with all the performance goodies (which is just the SVTPP).

[bpmurr]

Originally Posted by Mr T

I bet the 13 GT500 with all the track goodies (track pak/performance pak)is 10K over the ZL1

I think you'll be surprised. There is talk of Ford just dumping the "options" and bringing it as one package like GM is doing with the ZL1. Which I hope is the case because even though I had a 2011 GT500 with the SVTPP it irked me I had to pay even more for top performance.

Originally Posted by htron50

The current 500's are upper 50's by the time you add anything to them..... talk 65+ by the time it's "ZL1-Able"

My 2011 GT500 with SVTPP was around $53k MSRP and $48K plus tax out the door.

[evolve]

Originally Posted by bpmurr

I think you'll be surprised. There is talk of Ford just dumping the "options" and bringing it as one package like GM is doing with the ZL1. Which I hope is the case because even though I had a 2011 GT500 with the SVTPP it irked me I had to pay even more for top performance.

That would be interesting to see.

[GT5Junkie]

Originally Posted by bpmurr

I think you'll be surprised. There is talk of Ford just dumping the "options" and bringing it as one package like GM is doing with the ZL1. Which I hope is the case because even though I had a 2011 GT500 with the SVTPP it irked me I had to pay even more for top performance.

I hope it's not the case, because if you just want a street and strip terror, a lot of people won't want to pay 6 grand+ extra for electronic shocks, diff coolers, etc that won't really make a difference to them.

Most of these cars, both GT500 and ZL1, are not going to spend much time on twisty tracks. I think Chevy would have been smart to release a ZL1 without the added weight and expense of the MRC and all the coolers. That car with an auto tranny coulda come in close to 50k and been a strip terror. Instead it's gonna come in close to 60 and not really be any better on the street or the strip.

[2cnd chance]

Originally Posted by Deki

I don't think Ford did anything to try and steals Chevy's thunder. They announced the specs before the LA auto show, like they do every year.

Really???

[mxkx250]

I think it was a good move to make the statements. Everybody seems to think that the new GT500 is going to walk right over the ZL1 because of the HP. By coming out and telling people that he thinks that the ZL1 is still the superior package is telling everyone he is confident in his product. Camaro people are going to buy the ZL1. Mustang people are going to buy the GT500 there is no question. People with no allegiances that are just looking for the fastest car would buy the Mustang just because of the precieved superior performance. This is just his way of saying, the Mustang may not be that superior. Time will tell.