Beginning of the End - GM to go fully electric

Checkmate1 · 01-28-2021, 11:04 AM

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/28/gene...s-by-2035.html

From where I am sitting, our cars have suddenly become buy and hold propositions.

My biggest issue with this is that North America does not have a utility/grid system that can handle massive consumption by electric cars. We are way behind!

triggerjerk · 01-28-2021, 11:10 AM

Forget flyover land auto buyers, it's time to go completely woke.

HypeBlueZL1 · 01-28-2021, 11:18 AM

Ford and Stellantis gotta be loving this.

gtfoxy · 01-28-2021, 11:18 AM

All part of the plan to tank the global economy.

What ever.

Mister Will · 01-28-2021, 11:18 AM

In the current political climate, this would be considered a smart move.

However, electric vehicles comprise just 2% of vehicles on the road. Also with current technology electric vehicles simply don't work that well outside of urban and metropolitan areas.

So basically they (politicians) are going to gut the oil and coal industry in 15 years. Really? Both are an integral part of our and the worlds infrastructure.

Keep in mind this is the result of executive orders, all of which can be canceled with the single stroke of a pin.

SirJangle · 01-28-2021, 11:33 AM

They plan to. Plans change all the time. The market will dictate what manufacturers produce. It's that simple.

Mountain · 01-28-2021, 11:43 AM

So, what's their investment in the dealership service side of things? Because you're talking a complete re-vamp of the competency of service personnel, mostly the mechanics, and that's not cheap or quick.

To this day, still, most of the individuals in service are people of a keen love of traditional vehicles, with ICE's, typically don't put as much thought toward electrified vehicles and don't focus too closely on diagnostics, in general, because 1. they don't have the time or 2. they don't understand the systems thoroughly enough (I'm not saying all, just the larger chuck of personnel).

LT4Greg · 01-28-2021, 11:48 AM

The politicians will never ride in electric airplanes or trains!

2018ZL1 · 01-28-2021, 12:05 PM

I dont believe a word of anything I read on a NBC website... sorry...

JSH · 01-28-2021, 12:18 PM

A bunch of European manufacturers have long ago announced all-electric fleets ahead

Vigilante375 · 01-28-2021, 12:19 PM

Before any company can make a claim line this, they need to be able to back up what their trying to do.

I've yet to see any company to do what Tesla has done with their electric vehicles can do.

parish8 · 01-28-2021, 12:30 PM

I wonder if people were this attached to horses, coal, beepers...

15 years is a long time. By then you will be nuts to not drive electric. Cleaner, quieter, cheaper to buy, maintain, operate... I see no reason not to lean into the change at this point. Stop fighting it.

gtfoxy · 01-28-2021, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parish8

I wonder if people were this attached to horses, coal, beepers...

15 years is a long time. By then you will be nuts to not drive electric. Cleaner, quieter, cheaper to buy, maintain, operate... I see no reason not to lean into the change at this point. Stop fighting it.

Change is the only constant, but not all change is good.

Unless the electricity is derived from wind or solar it is not “Cleaner”. It’s actually less energy efficient & consumes more natural resource.

Now, once cold fusion reactors in large quantities become the norm, electric all the way.

Moundman16 · 01-28-2021, 01:31 PM

I wonder how they are going to get around all the plastics they use. It takes a lot of fossil fuels to make plastic.

01-28-2021, 11:04 AM	#1
Checkmate1 Drives: Garnet Red / ZL1 1LE Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Bel Air, MD Posts: 492	Beginning of the End - GM to go fully electric https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/28/gene...s-by-2035.html From where I am sitting, our cars have suddenly become buy and hold propositions. My biggest issue with this is that North America does not have a utility/grid system that can handle massive consumption by electric cars. We are way behind! __________________ #SAVETHEMANUALS Last edited by Checkmate1; 01-29-2021 at 11:03 AM.

01-28-2021, 11:48 AM	#8
LT4Greg Drives: 2017 Camaro ZL1 Coupe Join Date: May 2016 Location: Georgia Posts: 5,813	The politicians will never ride in electric airplanes or trains! __________________ ZL1 Coupe, PDR, Exposed carbon fiber hood insert, My Link with Nav, M6 6 speed and Silver Ice Metallic. Mods done: ceramic window tint, GM Accessories Camaro floor mats and Roto-Fab CAI.

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2018ZL1 Drives: 2018 ZL1 A10 NFG Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Woodbine Md Posts: 652 View My Garage	I dont believe a word of anything I read on a NBC website... sorry... __________________ 2018 ZL1-NFG-A10 New Iron L8T 9.32 147MPH

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JSH Drives: '20 ZLE Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Mile High Posts: 3,559	A bunch of European manufacturers have long ago announced all-electric fleets ahead __________________ '20 ZL1 1LE A10, OEM short block, LME heads/valve train, E2650. 100+ octanes, no eth, no meth, no N2O. 2/23 - 1031/1004 wheel. 4/23 - 1.41/9.61/145 at DA 7000 ft. (only made five passes). 2/24 - LME 390, E2650, FBO, 100 oct.; 1116hp/ 1063tq; 109 oct. dyno next.

01-28-2021, 12:30 PM	#12
parish8 Drives: 17 SS a8 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: omaha Posts: 1,678	I wonder if people were this attached to horses, coal, beepers... 15 years is a long time. By then you will be nuts to not drive electric. Cleaner, quieter, cheaper to buy, maintain, operate... I see no reason not to lean into the change at this point. Stop fighting it. __________________ dropped a valve in the 6.2. now running a drop in rods and piston 5.3 best et 5.83@121 with the 5.3 http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=465472

01-28-2021, 11:10 AM	#2
triggerjerk Drives: 2023 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: USA Posts: 404	Forget flyover land auto buyers, it's time to go completely woke.

01-28-2021, 11:18 AM	#3
HypeBlueZL1 Drives: Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 73	Ford and Stellantis gotta be loving this.

01-28-2021, 11:18 AM	#4
gtfoxy Account Suspended Drives: '21 Wild Cherry ZL1 Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: WI Posts: 2,082	All part of the plan to tank the global economy. What ever.

01-28-2021, 11:18 AM	#5
Mister Will Drives: 2021 Camaro ZL1 A10 Join Date: May 2013 Location: San Diego, CA. Posts: 457	In the current political climate, this would be considered a smart move. However, electric vehicles comprise just 2% of vehicles on the road. Also with current technology electric vehicles simply don't work that well outside of urban and metropolitan areas. So basically they (politicians) are going to gut the oil and coal industry in 15 years. Really? Both are an integral part of our and the worlds infrastructure. Keep in mind this is the result of executive orders, all of which can be canceled with the single stroke of a pin.

01-28-2021, 11:33 AM	#6
SirJangle Drives: 2021 Acura RDX SH-AWD Advance Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 480 View My Garage	They *plan* to. Plans change all the time. The market will dictate what manufacturers produce. It's that simple.

01-28-2021, 11:43 AM	#7
Mountain Drives: 2017 SS 1LE, 2016 1SS (previous) Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Metro-Detroit Posts: 1,863	So, what's their investment in the dealership service side of things? Because you're talking a complete re-vamp of the competency of service personnel, mostly the mechanics, and that's not cheap or quick. To this day, still, most of the individuals in service are people of a keen love of traditional vehicles, with ICE's, typically don't put as much thought toward electrified vehicles and don't focus too closely on diagnostics, in general, because 1. they don't have the time or 2. they don't understand the systems thoroughly enough (I'm not saying all, just the larger chuck of personnel).

01-28-2021, 12:19 PM	#11
Vigilante375 Drives: 2018 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,369	Before any company can make a claim line this, they need to be able to back up what their trying to do. I've yet to see any company to do what Tesla has done with their electric vehicles can do.

01-28-2021, 01:31 PM	#14
Moundman16 Drives: 2004 Mercedes E 500 Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Mooresville, NC Posts: 3	I wonder how they are going to get around all the plastics they use. It takes a lot of fossil fuels to make plastic.

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