Chevrolet Camaro stays true to its purpose

z28guy30 · 06-21-2016, 02:28 AM

Mustang owners like to boast about how well the new Mustang has sold compared to the rival Camaro, but the Camaro was designed in 1967 to simply outrun and outperform the Ford Mustang. That is exactly what it did then, and 50 years later it is exactly what it is doing today with the 6th Gen Camaro.

Dreamcar16 · 06-21-2016, 03:06 AM

thats right. the camaro is not for everyone, most people like 2nd place

hrpiii · 06-21-2016, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Dreamcar16

thats right. the camaro is not for everyone, most people like 2nd place

that is the quote of the year.

MiamiBlueCamaro · 06-21-2016, 06:24 AM

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Mikey LikesIt · 06-21-2016, 07:11 AM

I think it's hilarious how a lot of the Mustang "enthusiasts" claim that sales is the most important criteria for what makes a car good. Whatever makes 'em sleep better I guess.

DeliveryMan · 06-21-2016, 07:21 AM

I'm in my 30s and have only owned GM's. Pontiac was my preference. I own a 2016 Camaro 2SS now and without a doubt it is the best car I have ever owned.

I know the Ford Mustang/Chevy Camaro pony car war and bashing has been around for awhile. And it can be fun!...But I seriously think we have to give the Devil his due. Not only is the Mustang the reason the Camaro/Firebird arriving in 1967...It is the reason for it's return.
THE MAIN POINT OF MY POST IS THIS:
The sales of the Mustang in the mid-2000s is what brought the Camaro back from the grave in 2009 (for the 2010 model year)... anyone that is a true Pony car enthusiast and especially those that will only drive a Camaro like myself has to have a love deep inside for the Mustang because without it the Camaro/Firebird may have never drove the streets.

A GM loyalist that is beyond thankful for the Mustang!

*Mr. Wyndham* · 06-21-2016, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DeliveryMan

I'm in my 30s and have only owned GM's. Pontiac was my preference. I own a 2016 Camaro 2SS now and without a doubt it is the best car I have ever owned.

I know the Ford Mustang/Chevy Camaro pony car war and bashing has been around for awhile. And it can be fun!...But I seriously think we have to give the Devil his due. Not only is the Mustang the reason the Camaro/Firebird arriving in 1967...It is the reason for it's return.
THE MAIN POINT OF MY POST IS THIS:
The sales of the Mustang in the mid-2000s is what brought the Camaro back from the grave in 2009 (for the 2010 model year)... anyone that is a true Pony car enthusiast and especially those that will only drive a Camaro like myself has to have a love deep inside for the Mustang because without it the Camaro/Firebird may have never drove the streets.

A GM loyalist that is beyond thankful for the Mustang!

I don't know about all that....

Mustang sales stayed pretty consistent even after the Fbody went on hiatus. And Lord, that car was awful and lanquished in the years after the Camaro went away....as I hear the tale told...there were many within GM that wanted to build a new Camaro, but they had no chassis appropriate to put it on. And then of course the question....what should it be?

But even I cannot deny that it was a factor in the Camaro's return. Just as Camaro is a factor for Mustang's performance upgrades over the past years.

Blue's SS · 06-21-2016, 08:29 AM

I am perfectly ok with the 8 year gap in the Camaro's history as it is nothing compared to having to deal with the legacy left behind by the Mustang II.

Tim Adams · 06-21-2016, 08:39 AM

Hey, the Mustang II front end parts found it's way under many a street rod.

LOL

Blue's SS · 06-21-2016, 08:59 AM

LOL, nice to know it was good for SOMETHING!

stars_fan · 06-21-2016, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue's SS

I am perfectly ok with the 8 year gap in the Camaro's history as it is nothing compared to having to deal with the legacy left behind by the Mustang II.

Or that anemic 4.6 that was so low powered for so many years.

Evil-Bee-NH · 06-21-2016, 01:14 PM

I'll agree but disagree Ford didn't revive the pony market they were around and like stated had sales that didn't improve on our 8 yr. hiatus at all if not for atleast the early chargers the market may have gone stagnant and GM might have said let's focus somewhere else. I hear the Mustang Camaro story over again and again in the recent years and i'm not taking anything away from the rivalry nor am I a Mopar Fanboy i'm about as far from it as can be but without the street success of the chargers do you honestly think we'd be where we are today? Sales don't make a car great but they certainly help keep things alive and kicking.

andrec10 · 06-21-2016, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dreamcar16

thats right. the camaro is not for everyone, most people like 2nd place

There it is!

ender2664 · 06-21-2016, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by z28guy30

Mustang owners like to boast about how well the new Mustang has sold compared to the rival Camaro, but the Camaro was designed in 1967 to simply outrun and outperform the Ford Mustang. That is exactly what it did then, and 50 years later it is exactly what it is doing today with the 6th Gen Camaro.

I did not design or make the camaro and they didn't design or make the Mustang, so what the hell are they boasting about? Taking pride in others accomplishments is strange.
Btw- the sales are probably due to mass market appeal, which usually has nothing or little to do with which car edges on the other.
The only reason I remotely care about camaro sales is I want there to be enough sales so that there is a gen7 and I can buy that. But by then I'll probably be deciding between the next generation corvette or viper pending nothing better in that price range being released.
Brand loyalty stagnates innovation. I love Chevy and have a LS1 tattoo but if another car came out that suited my tastes more id get that. But I doubt it because of how Chevy sees cornering there market is in line with the type of car i like.

06-21-2016, 02:28 AM	#1
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06-21-2016, 08:29 AM	#8
Blue's SS Drives: 2017 Camaro 1SS, for go, not show. Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Pearland, Texas, United States Posts: 426	I am perfectly ok with the 8 year gap in the Camaro's history as it is nothing compared to having to deal with the legacy left behind by the Mustang II. __________________ Camaro/Firebird fan since 1977! Previous rides: 1965 Pontiac GTO, 1977 Trans Am Special Ed. "Bandit", 1996 Camaro 3.8, 2002 Camaro Z28, 2014 Camaro 2SS/RS M6 Spring Special Edition Current ride: "SOUTHERNCROSS" - 2017 Camaro 1SS Silver Ice Metallic/Jet Black w/BO4 56V RZ9 NPP SFE SH1 VW9 W2D "And no BS! It's (the 1SS) everything you need and nothing you don't." -Craig Cole on the 1SS vs 2SS "Reach above your dreams of pleasure, giving life to those who died. Look beyond your own horizons, sail the ship of signs." -RJD 'The Sign of the Southern Cross'

06-21-2016, 08:39 AM	#9
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06-21-2016, 08:59 AM	#10
Blue's SS Drives: 2017 Camaro 1SS, for go, not show. Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Pearland, Texas, United States Posts: 426	LOL, nice to know it was good for SOMETHING! __________________ Camaro/Firebird fan since 1977! Previous rides: 1965 Pontiac GTO, 1977 Trans Am Special Ed. "Bandit", 1996 Camaro 3.8, 2002 Camaro Z28, 2014 Camaro 2SS/RS M6 Spring Special Edition Current ride: "SOUTHERNCROSS" - 2017 Camaro 1SS Silver Ice Metallic/Jet Black w/BO4 56V RZ9 NPP SFE SH1 VW9 W2D "And no BS! It's (the 1SS) everything you need and nothing you don't." -Craig Cole on the 1SS vs 2SS "Reach above your dreams of pleasure, giving life to those who died. Look beyond your own horizons, sail the ship of signs." -RJD 'The Sign of the Southern Cross'

06-21-2016, 03:06 AM	#2
Dreamcar16 Drives: 2017 Camaro 1SS M6 Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: atlantis Posts: 429	thats right. the camaro is not for everyone, most people like 2nd place

06-21-2016, 07:11 AM	#5
Mikey LikesIt Drives: 2016 Black Camaro 2SS A8 Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: NorCal East bay Posts: 134	I think it's hilarious how a lot of the Mustang "enthusiasts" claim that sales is the most important criteria for what makes a car good. Whatever makes 'em sleep better I guess.

06-21-2016, 07:21 AM	#6
DeliveryMan Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Ohio Posts: 241	I'm in my 30s and have only owned GM's. Pontiac was my preference. I own a 2016 Camaro 2SS now and without a doubt it is the best car I have ever owned. I know the Ford Mustang/Chevy Camaro pony car war and bashing has been around for awhile. And it can be fun!...But I seriously think we have to give the Devil his due. Not only is the Mustang the reason the Camaro/Firebird arriving in 1967...It is the reason for it's return. THE MAIN POINT OF MY POST IS THIS: The sales of the Mustang in the mid-2000s is what brought the Camaro back from the grave in 2009 (for the 2010 model year)... anyone that is a true Pony car enthusiast and especially those that will only drive a Camaro like myself has to have a love deep inside for the Mustang because without it the Camaro/Firebird may have never drove the streets. A GM loyalist that is beyond thankful for the Mustang!

06-21-2016, 01:14 PM	#12
Evil-Bee-NH 603 Camaros Drives: 2017 NGM I4 1LT Coupe Join Date: May 2012 Location: Manchester, NH Posts: 6,779 View My Garage	I'll agree but disagree Ford didn't revive the pony market they were around and like stated had sales that didn't improve on our 8 yr. hiatus at all if not for atleast the early chargers the market may have gone stagnant and GM might have said let's focus somewhere else. I hear the Mustang Camaro story over again and again in the recent years and i'm not taking anything away from the rivalry nor am I a Mopar Fanboy i'm about as far from it as can be but without the street success of the chargers do you honestly think we'd be where we are today? Sales don't make a car great but they certainly help keep things alive and kicking.

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