UPDATE on F & R sway bars!

NickyRacerBoy · 10-04-2019, 10:14 PM

I am just so blown away the improvements!
No more snap oversteer. Oversteer is so more communicative if is does happen! So easily controlled with more throttle. Understeer has be reduced also. The car is so much more controllable allow me to pitch throttle up earlier.
Couldnt be happier with results.

Hotchkis front bar BMR rear and BMR endlinks.
Thanks Ryepile for your recommendations!

BTW smashed my personal best today on Hoosiers with 10 heat cycles!

Also nice meeting some forum members today!!!!

Stormtrooper1le · 10-05-2019, 08:27 AM

Nick- that is awesome to hear! I cant remember do you have a Zl1 or a ZLE?

driven2exceSS · 10-05-2019, 09:21 AM

("1LE") ...Always nice to notice a change for the positive when doing any mods, good to know!

I feel i've been pushing and getting a tad of understeer before the apex's while trail-braking, may look to some further swaybar (rear-BMR) upgrades myself over winter. But since balancing the brake bias F to R it has helped some also. Although only had one event with the pad change and the car was not running 100% either to get a true "tried-and-true" feel of the bias change. -Enjoy!!

Badmojo · 10-05-2019, 03:28 PM

I'm looking at doing sway bars for next season. What is the rationale for using Hotchkis up front and BMR in the rear?

Do you have the part numbers?

Quote:

Originally Posted by NickyRacerBoy

I am just so blown away the improvements!
No more snap oversteer. Oversteer is so more communicative if is does happen! So easily controlled with more throttle. Understeer has be reduced also. The car is so much more controllable allow me to pitch throttle up earlier.
Couldnt be happier with results.

Hotchkis front bar BMR rear and BMR endlinks.
Thanks Ryepile for your recommendations!

BTW smashed my personal best today on Hoosiers with 10 heat cycles!

Also nice meeting some forum members today!!!!

NickyRacerBoy · 10-05-2019, 06:35 PM

You're on stock FE4 bars right now?

If so, and you're running somewhere between 100TW tires and Hoosier R7's, you want the Hotchkis front bar and the BMR adjustable rear bar. Start with both on the middle setting. This will maintain the neutral balance, but provide 30% added roll stiffness from FE4 bars to match the added tire grip.

https://www.hotchkis.net/product/201...&md=432&sm=492

https://www.bmrsuspension.com/?page=...624&superpro=0

I don't recommend the BMR hammertone powder coat, as it will end up rusting after the first contact with water.

NickyRacerBoy · 10-05-2019, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stormtrooper1le

Nick- that is awesome to hear! I cant remember do you have a Zl1 or a ZLE?

SS 1LE

Norm Peterson · 10-06-2019, 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NickyRacerBoy

https://www.hotchkis.net/product/201...&md=432&sm=492

https://www.bmrsuspension.com/?page=...624&superpro=0

I don't recommend the BMR hammertone powder coat, as it will end up rusting after the first contact with water.

Links not found.

A shame about the hammertone for anybody who might want the 'go' without the 'show'.

Norm

NickyRacerBoy · 10-06-2019, 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norm Peterson

Links not found.

A shame about the hammertone for anybody who might want the 'go' without the 'show'.

Norm

https://www.hotchkis.net/product/201...tchkis-22118f/

NickyRacerBoy · 10-06-2019, 07:51 AM

http://m.bmrsuspension.com/?page=pro...productid=1624

Badmojo · 10-06-2019, 08:03 AM

I got this from BMR via e-mail. Stiffness wise the BMR and Hotchkis are close in the middle setting on the front.

Badmojo · 10-06-2019, 08:14 AM

I referenced the sway bar rate to the factory ZL1 bar.

NickyRacerBoy · 10-06-2019, 05:39 PM

Good info. SS 1LE bar is how much stiffer the base SS? I imagine its stiffer the ZL1.

RUQWIKR · 10-06-2019, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NickyRacerBoy

Good info. SS 1LE bar is how much stiffer the base SS? I imagine its stiffer the ZL1.

Same bars for FE4 SS 1LE & ZL1 (not FEA code from ZL1 1LE). Rear spring rates same for all FE4. Front spring rate slightly different on ZL1 due to extra weight on nose from blower, heat exchanger, etc.

NickyRacerBoy · 10-06-2019, 07:06 PM

1.26.4 at thunderbolt NJMP
Is a good start but need to get in the 24s

10-04-2019, 10:14 PM	#1
NickyRacerBoy Drives: 1LE Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: East Coast Posts: 1,473	UPDATE on F & R sway bars! I am just so blown away the improvements! No more snap oversteer. Oversteer is so more communicative if is does happen! So easily controlled with more throttle. Understeer has be reduced also. The car is so much more controllable allow me to pitch throttle up earlier. Couldnt be happier with results. Hotchkis front bar BMR rear and BMR endlinks. Thanks Ryepile for your recommendations! BTW smashed my personal best today on Hoosiers with 10 heat cycles! Also nice meeting some forum members today!!!!

10-05-2019, 09:21 AM	#3
driven2exceSS Drives: 2016 2SS BLK A8 Vert Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: MA Posts: 1,029	("1LE") ...Always nice to notice a change for the positive when doing any mods, good to know! I feel i've been pushing and getting a tad of understeer before the apex's while trail-braking, may look to some further swaybar (rear-BMR) upgrades myself over winter. But since balancing the brake bias F to R it has helped some also. Although only had one event with the pad change and the car was not running 100% either to get a true "tried-and-true" feel of the bias change. -Enjoy!! __________________ NPP, MRC, Tinted side & rear reflectors, OEM ZL1 Rockers / 3rd Brake / Darken tail lights, OEM Blk rear splash guards, Satin hood wrap, Fuse pull, Sound tube delete, Cat delete, Ported 95 TB, Ported MSD IM, Dry RotoFab, ARH 1 7/8 headers, E85, "Performance Dyno" Tune, BMR "pieces", "Track" alignment, Hawk DCT-70/70's w/SRF, Goodridge lines, Ti shims, Red powdered calipers, 18" APEX SM-10's w/ Pirelli DH's, FE4 Vert swaybars, Brake cooling ducts, ATI 10% UD, Vorshlag camber plates, OEM 1LE Splitter w/APR Ext., Velossa BIG MOUTH Ram Air, CF QA1, ZLE brakes(F) Last edited by driven2exceSS; 10-05-2019 at 09:53 AM.

10-06-2019, 08:03 AM	#10
Badmojo aka BeastZL1 Drives: 2019 Camaro ZL1 1LE, 2004 Cobra Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: NC Posts: 1,103	I got this from BMR via e-mail. Stiffness wise the BMR and Hotchkis are close in the middle setting on the front. Attached Images __________________ 2019 Camaro ZL1 1LE Racing for ALS Youtube Link

10-06-2019, 08:14 AM	#11
Badmojo aka BeastZL1 Drives: 2019 Camaro ZL1 1LE, 2004 Cobra Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: NC Posts: 1,103	I referenced the sway bar rate to the factory ZL1 bar. Attached Images __________________ 2019 Camaro ZL1 1LE Racing for ALS Youtube Link

10-05-2019, 08:27 AM	#2
Stormtrooper1le Drives: 2018 ZLE Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: NC Posts: 66	Nick- that is awesome to hear! I cant remember do you have a Zl1 or a ZLE?

10-05-2019, 06:35 PM	#5
NickyRacerBoy Drives: 1LE Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: East Coast Posts: 1,473	You're on stock FE4 bars right now? If so, and you're running somewhere between 100TW tires and Hoosier R7's, you want the Hotchkis front bar and the BMR adjustable rear bar. Start with both on the middle setting. This will maintain the neutral balance, but provide 30% added roll stiffness from FE4 bars to match the added tire grip. https://www.hotchkis.net/product/201...&md=432&sm=492 https://www.bmrsuspension.com/?page=...624&superpro=0 I don't recommend the BMR hammertone powder coat, as it will end up rusting after the first contact with water.

10-06-2019, 07:51 AM	#9
NickyRacerBoy Drives: 1LE Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: East Coast Posts: 1,473	http://m.bmrsuspension.com/?page=pro...productid=1624

10-06-2019, 05:39 PM	#12
NickyRacerBoy Drives: 1LE Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: East Coast Posts: 1,473	Good info. SS 1LE bar is how much stiffer the base SS? I imagine its stiffer the ZL1.

10-06-2019, 07:06 PM	#14
NickyRacerBoy Drives: 1LE Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: East Coast Posts: 1,473	1.26.4 at thunderbolt NJMP Is a good start but need to get in the 24s

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