[LeonardS]

Originally Posted by MisterMarauder

I will never understand buying a car just to park it in the garage/driveway. They cost too much just to be lawn art.

You don’t want to look in my garage.

[mariojas]

Originally Posted by MisterMarauder

I will never understand buying a car just to park it in the garage/driveway. They cost too much just to be lawn art.

This.

[willzilla]

7th gen Camaro spotted...

[Gen_Nick3.8]

Originally Posted by mariojas

This.

Bro are we brothers? I have a 23 Stinger GT, 22 ZL1 and b4 that my hellcat got stolen

[Gen_Nick3.8]

Here's my 0.2 C for whatever its worth.

Its not an emissions thing the LT5 will live on for many many years. Ford Made a V8 compliant and GM is working on Zora. I don't think the Camaro nameplate will die we will see a 7th Gen. GM caused the 6th gen not to sell. No advertisements, Poor visibility & cramped interior space. They can fix these things quite easily and still keep the Alpha Chassis as its still superior to anything Ford has. No major retooling required. This just may be a stunt to get the camaro in the news for free advertising.

There's really no reason for GM to kill off the camaro its Good for the brand as a whole. But who knows.

[arpad_m]

Originally Posted by Gen_Nick3.8

Here's my 0.2 C for whatever its worth.

Its not an emissions thing the LT5 will live on for many many years. Ford Made a V8 compliant and GM is working on Zora. I don't think the Camaro nameplate will die we will see a 7th Gen. GM caused the 6th gen not to sell. No advertisements, Poor visibility & cramped interior space. They can fix these things quite easily and still keep the Alpha Chassis as its still superior to anything Ford has. No major retooling required. This just may be a stunt to get the camaro in the news for free advertising.

There's really no reason for GM to kill off the camaro its Good for the brand as a whole. But who knows.

I've been saying this for years and ex-GM employees here just kept saying it wasn't true and GM won't sink any more cost into Camaro development, because its sales are just a chunk of a dying segment.

For what it's worth, I still don't see how the same point you're making wouldn't apply. The ease of 1) fixing the well-known minor shortcomings causing continued negative perception, then 2) adding a bit of power (with existing solutions, after all this is a parts bin car and a glorious one at that) and 3) maybe advertising the car a bit, in other words, putting up a fight with minimal R&D cost, means there is no way it would not be profitable.

The counterargument is that even then the real money is only in SUVs, trucks and EVs, but it's very interesting that on one side perception appears to be everything (those "yuge" visibility, back seat legroom, bathtub cabin, trunk opening etc. issues with the Camaro), but the perception of excellence and vanguardship from an outstanding, world class sports/muscle car offering is swept off the table.

I guess they may think there is no room for two players of this kind on the same stage, and if one has to make a choice, the Corvette is the obvious one for GM.

[Streetrod782]

Originally Posted by Gen_Nick3.8

Bro are we brothers? I have a 23 Stinger GT, 22 ZL1 and b4 that my hellcat got stolen

Funny my 2018 Widebody Hellcat Challenger got stolen as well. Actually I sold it to a dealer for more than I paid for it last year and the night I gave it to them it was stolen from the dealer showroom. Still hasn’t been recovered.

[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by arpad_m

I've been saying this for years and ex-GM employees here just kept saying it wasn't true and GM won't sink any more cost into Camaro development, because its sales are just a chunk of a dying segment.

For what it's worth, I still don't see how the same point you're making wouldn't apply. The ease of 1) fixing the well-known minor shortcomings causing continued negative perception, then 2) adding a bit of power (with existing solutions, after all this is a parts bin car and a glorious one at that) and 3) maybe advertising the car a bit, in other words, putting up a fight with minimal R&D cost, means there is no way it would not be profitable.

The counterargument is that even then the real money is only in SUVs, trucks and EVs, but it's very interesting that on one side perception appears to be everything (those "yuge" visibility, back seat legroom, bathtub cabin, trunk opening etc. issues with the Camaro), but the perception of excellence and vanguardship from an outstanding, world class sports/muscle car offering is swept off the table.

I guess they may think there is no room for two players of this kind on the same stage, and if one has to make a choice, the Corvette is the obvious one for GM.

My opinion, GM isn't run by people with balls anymore. They're in bed with the Govt and pushing the Govt agenda because they're most likely getting some kickbacks from them.