[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by Pushrod Pete

the z06 can barely do 2 laps without heat soak. I hope they addressed this if they indeed to plan to use the LT4. It would be embarrassing to make a "track car" that can barely manage to complete 2 laps lol...

It's not so much heat soak, but overheating the transmission...and this issue was addressed with larger coolers...besides the fact that the ZL1 features significantly more cooling than the Corvette has to work with. I very much doubt it will have a problem...

Originally Posted by Mister Will

The Z28 has shared engines with other Camaro platforms before. Why not now?

Many have a problem with the heritage factor....Z/28 was originally built to be a competitive race car. Competitive race cars typically use Naturally-aspiritaed engines. LT4 is supercharged. Yet, the LT1 doesn't have enough grunt to really push a car with these sorts of handling and braking capabilities to its limit...So they ask for a new engine...

[mlee]

I just hope I have ALL the details on this car BEFORE I buy the ZL1

[bballr4567]

Originally Posted by mjk3888

Umm tires were squealing through the entire turn. That's a pretty fast sweeper so I'm sure he literally gave a quick stab of the brakes. (not exactly a braking zone BTW) He was definitely WOT from 0:34-0:36 any person can hear the raise in RPM.

As far as how much throttle he applied on corner exit, the next turn was a simlar sweeper. He seemed to be moving at a decent pace to me. We have no idea if he had heat in the tires yet or what the testing situation was.

You don't have to lock up on entry and drift the corner to get max speed. Remember ABS and Perf Traction Management are all there to aid in avoiding loss of traction. So there shouldn't be absolute screeching from the tires.

Sure thing!!!

The crazy fact is there is at least a minute of the car on the track and we hear "whine" for maybe a second of it. Something isn't right.

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by mjk3888

True. Are you saying they might call it a ZL1/1LE? I would be surprised if that happened.

I don't know. It's not likely it will be ZL1/1LE but I highly doubt it will be ZL1/Z28.

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by Mr. Wyndham

I definitely heard blower whine at the :34 second mark...strange you can't here it anywhere else, though...

It looks like there's two possibilities, here...

This could be a "ZL1.R", or "ZL1 track package"

...or this could be a Z/28.

Z/28 won't be a "package" for the ZL1...not happening. If it's not the right car, then it's not a Z/28, that's what the team has said...perhaps there won't be a Z/28 as we've come to know it, then?

I agree. I don't think it would be an option box on the ZL1, but rather use the ZL1 as its backbone and crank it up to 11

[90503]

Well, there are definitely TWO different cars in the video....

The track video starts out with the hash-marked car, (plate # 050-031)...then interspersed on the track is the non-hash car (plate # 047-832) that is the one around :35-40 seconds with the super-charger heard....that is the only segment of the non-hash car on the track....and perhaps why no supercharger is heard on the hash-marked car...Both are then shown driving off the track on the street...

Possibly two different test set-ups, different engines, different spoiler mounts....But two separate cars for sure, made to look like just one in the video...Maybe one is a ZL-1 package, one is the Z/28??...lol

Happy Hunting!

[chain777]

Originally Posted by 90503

I don't think they are worried too much about the Z/28, this gen or last, as being a big seller. If it looks like they are just "stacked", I don't see that as a concern.

The Z/28 will be at the top of the stack. It had a unique engine, normally aspirated last gen and sales stunk. Maybe they don't want a repeat of that.

All the howling for normally aspirated didn't translate into a big selling 5th Gen.

It wasn't the LS7 that translated into poor sales for the Z/28, it was the price and the fact that it wasn't equipped to make a good street car. 75K for a stripped track car is a very limited market.

I wonder what price point this new one is aiming at? It seems mid 60's is the consensus for the new ZL1 and if this new Z/28 is based off the ZL1 but with more aggressive aero, suspension, tires and CC brakes, are we looking at a price even higher than the last one? If so, it's creeping mighty close to ZO6 territory.

[JacobC1983]

Originally Posted by Mr. Wyndham

Z/28 won't be a "package" for the ZL1...not happening. If it's not the right car, then it's not a Z/28, that's what the team has said...perhaps there won't be a Z/28 as we've come to know it, then?

If you think the vehicle is called a Z28 and will be its own model then that is fine...

But it is looking more and more like the Z28 starts with a ZL1 as the backbone and adds different aero, tires and probably coil overs.

This vehicle isn't getting it's own powerplant as the last generation which is where most people draw the line as a different "model" so to speak.

[ISHLISS]

Sounds NA to me. @.34 seconds he is hard on the brakes so why would there be blower whine?

[DanSS24]

This Z/28 WILL be N/A.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by shaffe

I agree. I don't think it would be an option box on the ZL1, but rather use the ZL1 as its backbone and crank it up to 11

Definitely a possibility.

Originally Posted by 90503

Well, there are definitely TWO different cars in the video....

The track video starts out with the hash-marked car, (plate # 050-031)...then interspersed on the track is the non-hash car (plate # 047-832) that is the one around :35-40 seconds with the super-charger heard....that is the only segment of the non-hash car on the track....and perhaps why no supercharger is heard on the hash-marked car...Both are then shown driving off the track on the street...

Possibly two different test set-ups, different engines, different spoiler mounts....But two separate cars for sure, made to look like just one in the video...Maybe one is a ZL-1 package, one is the Z/28??...lol

Happy Hunting!

Very interesting.

Originally Posted by JacobC1983

If you think the vehicle is called a Z28 and will be its own model then that is fine...

But it is looking more and more like the Z28 starts with a ZL1 as the backbone and adds different aero, tires and probably coil overs.

This vehicle isn't getting it's own powerplant as the last generation which is where most people draw the line as a different "model" so to speak.

We don't know much in stone, just yet...but it would appear that the car starts as a ZL1.

[JacobC1983]

Originally Posted by Mr. Wyndham

We don't know much in stone, just yet...but it would appear that the car starts as a ZL1.

Let's look at this a different way for fun.

Is the Corvette Grand Sport a different model?


I am sure you can tell which way I am going with this... because if it is.. then the Z28 definitely is as well.

[mjk3888]

Originally Posted by bballr4567

Sure thing!!!

The crazy fact is there is at least a minute of the car on the track and we hear "whine" for maybe a second of it. Something isn't right.

It was on track for less than 40 seconds. Half of that it was out of view. Only once was it at speed and under acceleration while driving towards the camera. Hence, why we only hear whine only once. You won't hear S/C whine over exhaust, so you will never hear it unless you are in front of the car.

You can try to dissect it until your blue in the face, but this car has a S/C! Sorry if that's not what you want, but its just a fact.

Originally Posted by 90503

Well, there are definitely TWO different cars in the video....

The track video starts out with the hash-marked car, (plate # 050-031)...then interspersed on the track is the non-hash car (plate # 047-832) that is the one around :35-40 seconds with the super-charger heard....that is the only segment of the non-hash car on the track....and perhaps why no supercharger is heard on the hash-marked car...Both are then shown driving off the track on the street...

Possibly two different test set-ups, different engines, different spoiler mounts....But two separate cars for sure, made to look like just one in the video...Maybe one is a ZL-1 package, one is the Z/28??...lol

Happy Hunting!

Previously the Hash marks denoted Automatic vs Manual test cars. I think the same has taken place here. I posted on this a few pages ago, but I know its hard to take in every page of the thread.

Originally Posted by mjk3888

MANUAL TRANS CAR
The non has mark car is definitely a manual. In its shot leaving the driveway you can clearly hear (Throttle off/clutch in) engine decel between gear switches. Not a seamless drop in RPM like an auto would have.

AUTO TRANS CAR
The hash mark car after pulling out of the roundabout at 2:35-2:55 makes at least 3 maybe 4 gear changes up seamlessly from maybe 10-35mph never seeming to exceed 2k rpm. This definitely smells of 10 speed auto to me.

I also think both drivers were well aware they were being recorded and were mindful to try and not make it obvoius if the car was an auto or manual.

There you go.

[2010SLVRBULIT]

So, the Z/28 reveals itself(note, no 'RS' headlights). Finally, A 6th gen worth waiting for...