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Old 01-09-2019, 08:07 PM   #43
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Those are fair responses, please accept my apologies for mine. Like you said, it’s somewhat rare to hear what I have done, so I am sure you understand to some degree I dealt with many doubters.

Here’s my story, and the blocks for that’s matter

From mile 23 to 700ish miles, bone stock.
700-3500 miles, tvs2300 with cai and long tubes, injectors and E85 510whp
3500-15000 added heads, cam, water meth, nw102, 125 dry shot throughout that period and few other minor performance mods 860whp
15000-21000ish miles switched to agp twins, larger injectors. Left the 125 shot and dual water meth on. 19lbs and 125 shot 1175whp. Spinning on dyno, so couldn’t go higher on boost. Did run 23lbs and 125 shot on the street though after.

Pulled motor after it started to get thirsty and replenish itself with water. Heads were lifting, block and heads undamaged though. Good ole stock style stretch to fit bolts, stretched out too much. Who knows, that probably could have been happening the whole time and kept cylinder pressure down enough to take what I put it through.

Stock ls3 intake, ported out for nw102 since I had it from the tvs I kept it on the car. B8efs plugs, stock coils and dwell.

All tuned by yours truly. Got burnt by a “reputable” tuner, completely jacked up the trans tune. At that time, right after the tvs, I decided to tune it myself and haven’t looked back.

I’ll finish off with again, my apologies for my earlier comment
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Old 01-09-2019, 08:45 PM   #44
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Those are fair responses, please accept my apologies for mine. Like you said, it’s somewhat rare to hear what I have done, so I am sure you understand to some degree I dealt with many doubters.

Here’s my story, and the blocks for that’s matter

From mile 23 to 700ish miles, bone stock.
700-3500 miles, tvs2300 with cai and long tubes, injectors and E85 510whp
3500-15000 added heads, cam, water meth, nw102, 125 dry shot throughout that period and few other minor performance mods 860whp
15000-21000ish miles switched to agp twins, larger injectors. Left the 125 shot and dual water meth on. 19lbs and 125 shot 1175whp. Spinning on dyno, so couldn’t go higher on boost. Did run 23lbs and 125 shot on the street though after.

Pulled motor after it started to get thirsty and replenish itself with water. Heads were lifting, block and heads undamaged though. Good ole stock style stretch to fit bolts, stretched out too much. Who knows, that probably could have been happening the whole time and kept cylinder pressure down enough to take what I put it through.

Stock ls3 intake, ported out for nw102 since I had it from the tvs I kept it on the car. B8efs plugs, stock coils and dwell.

All tuned by yours truly. Got burnt by a “reputable” tuner, completely jacked up the trans tune. At that time, right after the tvs, I decided to tune it myself and haven’t looked back.

I’ll finish off with again, my apologies for my earlier comment



badass man that's crazy, what mix of water/meth ratio did you run and what did the timing curve look like up top and timing at peak torque
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Old 01-09-2019, 09:26 PM   #45
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50/50, or as close to as possible. Sometimes I’d get 3 gallons on meth and throw in 2 gallons of distilled into a 5 gallon jug.

Timing was at 19 total degrees up to 6300rpm, where I cut back to -4 along with fuel cut do shifts. Unfortunately with that tune I was unable to zing it out to 6600 where it make peak power, but saved the transmission and rods in the long run. Plus, turbos like the load right, so shifting earlier in the power band wasn’t too bad.
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Old 01-09-2019, 09:41 PM   #46
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Those are fair responses, please accept my apologies for mine. Like you said, it’s somewhat rare to hear what I have done, so I am sure you understand to some degree I dealt with many doubters.

Here’s my story, and the blocks for that’s matter

From mile 23 to 700ish miles, bone stock.
700-3500 miles, tvs2300 with cai and long tubes, injectors and E85 510whp
3500-15000 added heads, cam, water meth, nw102, 125 dry shot throughout that period and few other minor performance mods 860whp
15000-21000ish miles switched to agp twins, larger injectors. Left the 125 shot and dual water meth on. 19lbs and 125 shot 1175whp. Spinning on dyno, so couldn’t go higher on boost. Did run 23lbs and 125 shot on the street though after.

Pulled motor after it started to get thirsty and replenish itself with water. Heads were lifting, block and heads undamaged though. Good ole stock style stretch to fit bolts, stretched out too much. Who knows, that probably could have been happening the whole time and kept cylinder pressure down enough to take what I put it through.

Stock ls3 intake, ported out for nw102 since I had it from the tvs I kept it on the car. B8efs plugs, stock coils and dwell.

All tuned by yours truly. Got burnt by a “reputable” tuner, completely jacked up the trans tune. At that time, right after the tvs, I decided to tune it myself and haven’t looked back.

I’ll finish off with again, my apologies for my earlier comment
And, I thought I was pushing the envelope with my 17psi, E66, no meth and 16* WOT timing. The dyno spit out 945rwhp for 15psi boost so don't know that the 17psi yielded, other than 188.7mph in the Colorado Mile. Won't matter much now as the LSX427 with 65's is just awaiting the new BTR intake for completion for insertion. Game on!
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Old 01-10-2019, 09:37 AM   #47
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Those are fair responses, please accept my apologies for mine. Like you said, it’s somewhat rare to hear what I have done, so I am sure you understand to some degree I dealt with many doubters.

Here’s my story, and the blocks for that’s matter

From mile 23 to 700ish miles, bone stock.
700-3500 miles, tvs2300 with cai and long tubes, injectors and E85 510whp
3500-15000 added heads, cam, water meth, nw102, 125 dry shot throughout that period and few other minor performance mods 860whp
15000-21000ish miles switched to agp twins, larger injectors. Left the 125 shot and dual water meth on. 19lbs and 125 shot 1175whp. Spinning on dyno, so couldn’t go higher on boost. Did run 23lbs and 125 shot on the street though after.

Pulled motor after it started to get thirsty and replenish itself with water. Heads were lifting, block and heads undamaged though. Good ole stock style stretch to fit bolts, stretched out too much. Who knows, that probably could have been happening the whole time and kept cylinder pressure down enough to take what I put it through.

Stock ls3 intake, ported out for nw102 since I had it from the tvs I kept it on the car. B8efs plugs, stock coils and dwell.

All tuned by yours truly. Got burnt by a “reputable” tuner, completely jacked up the trans tune. At that time, right after the tvs, I decided to tune it myself and haven’t looked back.

I’ll finish off with again, my apologies for my earlier comment
Very cool man. I started off very similar to you then. I started with FBO + cam @ 8000 miles.

Then I added the ECS supercharger kit @ 12,000 miles and made about 793 rwhp (dynocom dyno) @ 15 psi 93+100% meth or 700 rwhp with restrictor plate in.

Then I switched to my AGP kit at about 20,000 miles. Just so happened right before I made the swap I had a cam failure (comp cam) or could have been lifter not sure. Caught it in time and was able to swap cam + fresh lifters and was good to go. I made peak power of 815 rwhp (mustang dyno) @ 16.7 psi with 93 + 100% meth.

Last year added triple pumps and bigger injectors to run e85 +100% meth and made 906 rwhp (same mustang dyno) @ 14 psi.

I'm currently @ 28,XXX miles with about 8,000 miles on the TT setup. I don't drive the car often, but when I do it is driven pretty hard. I'm trying my best to keep my engine alive until I have the funds for the new big boi engine. So far my recipe has been frequent oil changes, good fuel and most important good tuning I guess. LOL!

Thanks for sharing your build.
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Old 01-10-2019, 10:44 AM   #48
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No problem, and the same to you on sharing. Keep an eye on that 100% meth injection, I have had a push to connect line come loose and spray under the hood throughout the run. The more meth content, the more of a chance for bad things to happen.

E85 only for me, and I monitor the % every time I fill up. Usually see around 73-77% around Houston. Once I tried ignite 114, but didn’t see enough positives to dedicate to a race gas fuel only car.
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Old 01-10-2019, 11:28 AM   #49
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No problem, and the same to you on sharing. Keep an eye on that 100% meth injection, I have had a push to connect line come loose and spray under the hood throughout the run. The more meth content, the more of a chance for bad things to happen.

E85 only for me, and I monitor the % every time I fill up. Usually see around 73-77% around Houston. Once I tried ignite 114, but didn’t see enough positives to dedicate to a race gas fuel only car.
what kind of timing do you see on the the big end with 19 pounds of boost?
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Old 01-10-2019, 12:18 PM   #50
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Old 01-10-2019, 01:22 PM   #51
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21 with spray
Good Lord I'm only running 12* peak timing on 19psi
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Old 01-10-2019, 01:26 PM   #52
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I’ll take that as a compliment

On my new setup at 22lbs and a 125 shot I am at 18, up to 6600rpms
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Old 01-10-2019, 01:28 PM   #53
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Switched over to the r5671-10 plugs though, little coldness never hurt nobody. But wasn’t too far from that on timing with the b8’s
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Old 01-10-2019, 03:05 PM   #54
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No problem, and the same to you on sharing. Keep an eye on that 100% meth injection, I have had a push to connect line come loose and spray under the hood throughout the run. The more meth content, the more of a chance for bad things to happen.

E85 only for me, and I monitor the % every time I fill up. Usually see around 73-77% around Houston. Once I tried ignite 114, but didn’t see enough positives to dedicate to a race gas fuel only car.
Yeah I have had the Alky meth kit since about 2012 and only a couple of minor issues. The first was when I used to use the washer fluid reservoir an o-ring started leaking on the reservoir near pump. I have since relocated my meth tank to the trunk which means I have longer lines, but try to keep an eye on them.

The second issue was in 2017 the pump started leaking a bit and ended up having to be rebuilt. Now I have a back up pump that I have ready to swap in while the other pump is getting rebuilt.

As far as e85 I see the same. HEB at Bunker hill is about 75-83% and so is the Sunoco @ Morton Ranch. However, the Phillips 66 right by the entrance to my neighborhood is 65-69%
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Old 01-10-2019, 06:44 PM   #55
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All good stuff here brutha's. I'm gleening from the pro's!
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Old 02-26-2019, 07:37 PM   #56
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How are you guys making all that power? I only made 843whp. 20 psi on e&m
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