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kropscamaro16 · 05-20-2020, 10:55 AM

my camaro is ceramic coated my cruze is just wax im gonna try some of that meguiars ceramic coating wax next time i detail my cruze and see how it holds up !

NeverDie · 05-20-2020, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SSport16

No to ceramic....they are overhyped and not worth it! Reload or a similiar Silica sealant is what you need. Ceramic coatings are just a Silica based product with a hardner like quartz in it. Sealants can leave water spots as well, but are much easier to remove and address the water spots. Ceramics do not protect against scratching, which is common misinformation out there.

For the record, you add reload over a ceramic coating.

Guess what that does?

VadersSlayer · 05-20-2020, 01:50 PM

Chadwicks Xtreme is amazing. Been using the chadwicks system since 2013 and have had zero issues.

indyz · 06-13-2020, 12:19 PM

Ceramic on my Mazda cx-5. Never again.
Waterspots can be a big problem.

I'd rather do TW seal and shine or something similar every month.

NYJets12 · 06-13-2020, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bmlocal175

Thanks for the replies... Might stick with what I'm doing but looking at getting a G9 by Griots to ease some of the by hand which takes awhile. I have some older essence and reload that probably need replacing. Have been looking at the Griots waxes and sealants. Are they all pretty much the same with the different brands? Seems like all the top 10 get great reviews. I just need to decide which to get and pads i guess.

You should use essence+(Not essence) and reload Unless it’s just a typo. That’s what I use with my griots D/A. Also got echo2 which is great because it has a number of uses . I just bought all 3 and got a sample of hydro 2 to spray my wheels. The reload,echo, water mix is a great detailer. Plus I’m gonna use echo for a rinseless. I may use echo for a waterless but only the day after I put essence+ & reload on because sometimes I get dust or pollen on the next day it’s very light . It just p*sses me off after I spend 6 hours cleaning it.
Which I’m gonna do tomorrow now that it quit raining every 3 days.

mspeed1LE · 07-09-2020, 09:57 PM

My car is ceramic coated and I wish I had seen this video before it was done.

Watch and learn...

franksredhot · 07-10-2020, 01:57 PM

If you have a 3 year old car with 3K miles, you don't need ceramic. I think it is great for cars seeing a lot of use. I'm driving less than 4K miles per year and don't take my car out in rain, snow or when there is salt on the road and it seems to me that sealants and polymer waxes last more than 6 months. And if you really want some extra shine you can add a layer of spray wax or collinite as the last coat. Lately I've been lazy and find that Optimum Spray Way and Gyeon detail spray both look great with very little work.

KirkH · 07-10-2020, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by franksredhot

If you have a 3 year old car with 3K miles, you don't need ceramic. I think it is great for cars seeing a lot of use. I'm driving less than 4K miles per year and don't take my car out in rain, snow or when there is salt on the road and it seems to me that sealants and polymer waxes last more than 6 months. And if you really want some extra shine you can add a layer of spray wax or collinite as the last coat. Lately I've been lazy and find that Optimum Spray Way and Gyeon detail spray both look great with very little work.

Ceramic is for people who don't like to detail their car. I love to detail my car,and NOTHING looks as good as carnauba wax! The sun hits that natural carnauba...there's nothing like it. I also think that synthetic wax like 3M looks great on Camaro paint.

DougCBJ · 07-10-2020, 08:45 PM

Never had any issues with my ceramic coat. I got just under 2 years of life out of my first coating of CQuartz UK and just did a new coat, but this time I topped it with Gliss and it is super slick.

NeverDie · 07-13-2020, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by KirkH

Ceramic is for people who don't like to detail their car.

Not only is this patently false, blanket statements such as these do more to discredit the person making them than anything else.

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I love to detail my car,and NOTHING looks as good as carnauba wax! The sun hits that natural carnauba...there's nothing like it. I also think that synthetic wax like 3M looks great on Camaro paint.

Just so everyone is aware.... you can add sealants/wax/etc on top of ceramic coatings as well. In fact, this is very common to achieve a specific look you want. I do this myself. The Ceramic provides a stronger base layer of protection than the wax or sealant will.

KirkH · 07-13-2020, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by NeverDie

Not only is this patently false, blanket statements such as these do more to discredit the person making them than anything else.

Just so everyone is aware.... you can add sealants/wax/etc on top of ceramic coatings as well. In fact, this is very common to achieve a specific look you want. I do this myself. The Ceramic provides a stronger base layer of protection than the wax or sealant will.

Whatever dude. I have professionally detailed hundreds and hundreds of cars. Discredit that.

Wax or sealants on top of ceramic puts a layer of less slick protection on top of the ceramic.

Matt1LE · 07-13-2020, 01:23 PM

I had my car ceramic coated. Love it. I also use Adams Ceramic Boost every few months to aid in its life. It's great for the hood wrap since it does not have any carnauba wax in it. Carnauba wax loves to destroy decals and wraps.

Though not necessary, I also use Adams Ceramic Liquid Wax every few months since I like that "slick feel" when I touch the car.

Never had any spotting issues.

Danger731 · 07-30-2020, 08:05 PM

Does anyone use Zaino amymore ? Is that old news ?

EJR8402 · 07-31-2020, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Danger731

Does anyone use Zaino amymore ? Is that old news ?

It's still around. The problem with Zaino is they really push it as a system- so when you read their website and tutorial, you might be left with the impression that you need ALL the products in the system in order for it to be effective. The way I see it, hobbyists who want to spend hours on their cars might be hesitant to invest in an entire system, and want to experiment more with different products. I know I do. And non-hobbyists are probably just going to get a ceramic coating, wash it every now and then, and otherwise forget about it.

Other manufacturers recommend you use their other products, but I don't get the impression that others push them as part of a system quite as much as Zaino has/does. Take this statement for example:

"Please note that if this is your first time using the Zaino system, ZFX or Z-AIO is mandatory for use with Z-2 PRO, Z-3, or Z-5 PRO."

MANDATORY. Really?

Also (LOL) the tutorial I just read on their website actually recommends buffing the product off with a COTTON towel. It's like they decided sometime back in 2004 that they just didn't want to modernize in any way. Hello, 1995 wants its detailing methods back.

https://www.zainostore.com/mm5/merch...s&Store_Code=Z

05-20-2020, 10:55 AM	#15
kropscamaro16 Drives: 2016 1ss camaro Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: 909 Posts: 9,816	my camaro is ceramic coated my cruze is just wax im gonna try some of that meguiars ceramic coating wax next time i detail my cruze and see how it holds up ! __________________ 16 1SS NIGHTFALL GRAY METALLIC WITH NPP #BECAUSERACECAR #SAVETHEMANUALS

07-30-2020, 08:05 PM	#27
Danger731 Drives: 02 Z/28 04 C5 00/07 Silverado Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: San Dog Posts: 9	Does anyone use Zaino amymore ? Is that old news ? __________________ 2020 Vert 2SS 2020 XT6 Sport 2016 2500HD 2014 CTS4 Sold: 2004 Vette 2002 Z/28 1998 Z/28 1995 Z/28

05-20-2020, 01:50 PM	#17
VadersSlayer Drives: 2018 Camaro SS 1LE Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Virginia Posts: 13	Chadwicks Xtreme is amazing. Been using the chadwicks system since 2013 and have had zero issues.

06-13-2020, 12:19 PM	#18
indyz Drives: 2SS, CT-R, LC500 Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: FLorida Posts: 534	Ceramic on my Mazda cx-5. Never again. Waterspots can be a big problem. I'd rather do TW seal and shine or something similar every month.

07-10-2020, 01:57 PM	#21
franksredhot Drives: 2016 Red Hot Camaro 1SS A8 Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 114	If you have a 3 year old car with 3K miles, you don't need ceramic. I think it is great for cars seeing a lot of use. I'm driving less than 4K miles per year and don't take my car out in rain, snow or when there is salt on the road and it seems to me that sealants and polymer waxes last more than 6 months. And if you really want some extra shine you can add a layer of spray wax or collinite as the last coat. Lately I've been lazy and find that Optimum Spray Way and Gyeon detail spray both look great with very little work.

07-10-2020, 08:45 PM	#23
DougCBJ Drives: 2016 Blue 2SS Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 612	Never had any issues with my ceramic coat. I got just under 2 years of life out of my first coating of CQuartz UK and just did a new coat, but this time I topped it with Gliss and it is super slick.

07-13-2020, 01:23 PM	#26
Matt1LE Drives: 2020 3LT Camaro 3.6L 1LE Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: San Diego Posts: 256	I had my car ceramic coated. Love it. I also use Adams Ceramic Boost every few months to aid in its life. It's great for the hood wrap since it does not have any carnauba wax in it. Carnauba wax loves to destroy decals and wraps. Though not necessary, I also use Adams Ceramic Liquid Wax every few months since I like that "slick feel" when I touch the car. Never had any spotting issues.

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