[jlaudio11]

Nice job! I’d say that’s pretty respectable for no tune, stock with a drag pack! The bottom of my stock airbox was cut out when I got it. Looking into it, seems like a common way to gain a touch. Might be worth looking into if you’re really trying to stay stock tune. I’d give you mine to try if you were closer.

[Dynamical]

Originally Posted by lt4camaro

Thanks Joe, yeah I was happy with that pass. Real world that really is a solid 2 tenths and 2 mph quicker than it should be . Very hard to do burn outs with a mid engine and a DCT trans, but yes You have to spin the tires while it lurches forward, you cannot touch the brake pedal to hold it still. Good luck to you and I will be keeping in touch.

Thanks Don.
I’m guessing Ted must of tuned your Camaro to help out the 60’ in some way. When I first saw your thread couple months ago, before I bought my car, I noticed your 60’ seemed lower than others.
Oh, and I thought you were done going down the 1/4!!!

Originally Posted by lt4camaro

6th gen LT1's with the 10 speed auto trans I believe are close to 3650 curb weight which is full of fluids.

GM says 3681 for our LT1 cars. At one point I had my 01 SS at 3190 which is probably why it responded better than this car in changes to DA.

Originally Posted by Joshinator99

Good info, thanks. Hopefully they do private rentals at Epping… much better way to go than test & tune. You can do some serious data logging, make a tune change, and get right back in line. The lines are usually shorter too.

Yes they do rentals.
I usually go street nights on Wednesday. Not as many people. Went Friday instead and the lines were nuts.
I believe NED is 90’ above sea level so naturally you’ll run faster there vs LVD.

Originally Posted by jlaudio11

Nice job! I’d say that’s pretty respectable for no tune, stock with a drag pack! The bottom of my stock airbox was cut out when I got it. Looking into it, seems like a common way to gain a touch. Might be worth looking into if you’re really trying to stay stock tune. I’d give you mine to try if you were closer.

Hey man thanks! Yes, I ran at + 97’ DA as well and it still ran 11.8.

I know you had Fbodies like me so you know what CAI and cooler IATs can do. I actually ordered a BIG MOUTH Ram Air Intake Snorkel by Velossa tech couple wks ago hoping to have it by last Friday night but it’s coming today. My old SSRA was good for .3 tops IIRC so I figure this snorkel should be good for .1 or so possibly. Shit, I may have to go back for another PB

What I really want is a stall! How has yours been? Looks like you figured it out? How is it driving a stall with this A10 compared to our old F bodies?

[lt4camaro]

Originally Posted by Joshinator99

Hey Don, great to meet you too! I’ll have to get a closer look at the Vette sometime.

Lebanon was downright crappy on Friday. That left lane gave me a good scare a couple of times and I ended up either aborting my run or letting off at 1/8 mile. The headwind has been a factor there both times I went this year…gives you a bit of a floaty feeling at the top end of the track…not great when you’re doing 150 MPH…

I watched a couple of your passes, one when you got loose mid track and another one where you got out of it mid track and not sure what happened on the third pass I watched. Last fall when I was up there, the left lane was troublesome also. I have not run the left lane in 20 years, it seems to work for all my past and present low 11 sec cars. Had a good day with the bone stock corvette, ran a 11.100 @ 123.17 mph.

[wnta1ss]

Originally Posted by Dynamical

I’m guessing Ted must of tuned your Camaro to help out the 60’ in some way. When I first saw your thread couple months ago, before I bought my car, I noticed your 60’ seemed lower than others.

Yes, his ecm tune with flex fuel helped with the 60' time IMO. My own experience with bolt-on mods was that with the stock SS tune and a pair of DRs, I was running mid-1.7 short times at best. Then with an ecm flex fuel tune (honestly just enabling the sensor at that time and not a full tune like lt4camaro got) I was able to run 1.67~1.69 on my best runs with the still-locked TCM. Finally I got the TCM unlocked and did some tcm tuning, and eventually I ran as low as 1.59 short times with my partial-bolt-on SS. Yes that was with the stock torque converter and stock gears.

[KingLT1]

Good times...the 6th gen is a stout platform even in stock form.


Imo the A10 is why you didn't see the gains that you expected. If somebody swapped a A10 into a 4th gen at 3100lbs, it would likely break into the high 10's with just a full bolt-on LS1. That trans basically makes similar power to a manual at the rear wheels, but never drops more than 600-800rpm on a shift. Where with a 4spd auto you need a 4k stall for that kind of shift extension and you are trading off 25% power for more torque multiplication to get the car moving.

[jlaudio11]

Originally Posted by Dynamical

Hey man thanks! Yes, I ran at + 97’ DA as well and it still ran 11.8.

I know you had Fbodies like me so you know what CAI and cooler IATs can do. I actually ordered a BIG MOUTH Ram Air Intake Snorkel by Velossa tech couple wks ago hoping to have it by last Friday night but it’s coming today. My old SSRA was good for .3 tops IIRC so I figure this snorkel should be good for .1 or so possibly. Shit, I may have to go back for another PB

What I really want is a stall! How has yours been? Looks like you figured it out? How is it driving a stall with this A10 compared to our old F bodies?

I've got mine working decently right now. It is locking up at wot etc. Dialing it in as far as when to lock up under part throttle has been a challenge. As far as cruising around, getting going isnt bad and locked up in the higher gears isn't bad. It feels stockish once locked up. I would say its overall a much better driving experience than a 4 speed with a really loose converter. Tuning will have the biggest impact on the drivability part. Every tweak I do on mine it keeps getting better.

[Dynamical]

Originally Posted by wnta1ss

Yes, his ecm tune with flex fuel helped with the 60' time IMO. My own experience with bolt-on mods was that with the stock SS tune and a pair of DRs, I was running mid-1.7 short times at best. Then with an ecm flex fuel tune (honestly just enabling the sensor at that time and not a full tune like lt4camaro got) I was able to run 1.67~1.69 on my best runs with the still-locked TCM. Finally I got the TCM unlocked and did some tcm tuning, and eventually I ran as low as 1.59 short times with my partial-bolt-on SS. Yes that was with the stock torque converter and stock gears.

It had to of no doubt. As my car sits right now, the 60' will not get any better. I could of not been happier with my burnouts, shallow staging and dead hooking
Even considering the stock stall is 2500rpm that sounds good. Thanks that's really good info
Do you go to Epping also?

Originally Posted by KingLT1

Good times...the 6th gen is a stout platform even in stock form.


Imo the A10 is why you didn't see the gains that you expected. If somebody swapped a A10 into a 4th gen at 3100lbs, it would likely break into the high 10's with just a full bolt-on LS1. That trans basically makes similar power to a manual at the rear wheels, but never drops more than 600-800rpm on a shift. Where with a 4spd auto you need a 4k stall for that kind of shift extension and you are trading off 25% power for more torque multiplication to get the car moving.

Thanks King. Yes I do like this car. Just wish is was lighter from the factory.

I do like this A10. Do you think a higher stall would screw up a good thing considering the shift extensions it already has?

This is my old 01SS with a 4k Circle D. It would drop to about 5500rpm

Originally Posted by jlaudio11

I've got mine working decently right now. It is locking up at wot etc. Dialing it in as far as when to lock up under part throttle has been a challenge. As far as cruising around, getting going isnt bad and locked up in the higher gears isn't bad. It feels stockish once locked up. I would say its overall a much better driving experience than a 4 speed with a really loose converter. Tuning will have the biggest impact on the drivability part. Every tweak I do on mine it keeps getting better.

Glad to hear it's coming together man. I emailed Circle D and they said the 10 speed units tend to be in lockup the majority of the time so you're able to get away with a higher RPM for daily street use in comparison to earlier model transmission types and that 38-4500rpm is not out of the norm.

[lt4camaro]

Originally Posted by Joshinator99

Hey Don, great to meet you too! I’ll have to get a closer look at the Vette sometime.

Lebanon was downright crappy on Friday. That left lane gave me a good scare a couple of times and I ended up either aborting my run or letting off at 1/8 mile. The headwind has been a factor there both times I went this year…gives you a bit of a floaty feeling at the top end of the track…not great when you’re doing 150 MPH…

I just looked at the DA info for the track that day, and It shows 16mph head winds and the DA was well under 1000 till noon. It went into the 1100s till 3pm when it dropped to 1039

[Joshinator99]

Originally Posted by lt4camaro

I just looked at the DA info for the track that day, and It shows 16mph head winds and the DA was well under 1000 till noon. It went into the 1100s till 3pm when it dropped to 1039

Not surprised about that headwind number…it was noticeable for sure. I was bummed about not being able to hook because the DA was much better Friday than it usually is. Oh well, we’ll make some adjustments and get back after it.

[lt4camaro]

Originally Posted by Joshinator99

Not surprised about that headwind number…it was noticeable for sure. I was bummed about not being able to hook because the DA was much better Friday than it usually is. Oh well, we’ll make some adjustments and get back after it.

Its too bad you could not hook up to use the great DA, I thought I saw you make a pass in the right lane and it sounded like your 1/8 mile was a clean pass, car sounds good, shifts sound good, car looks great.

[Joshinator99]

Originally Posted by lt4camaro

Its too bad you could not hook up to use the great DA, I thought I saw you make a pass in the right lane and it sounded like your 1/8 mile was a clean pass, car sounds good, shifts sound good, car looks great.

Yeah I think that was the run I forgot to datalog lmao!

Thank you though! Appreciate the kind words. It’s been a labor of love for sure.

[Dynamical]

Originally Posted by Joshinator99

Yeah I think that was the run I forgot to datalog lmao!

Thank you though! Appreciate the kind words. It’s been a labor of love for sure.

Did you happen to get any decent runs in at all? I'm just curious. Must be tough hooking that monster up

[Joshinator99]

Originally Posted by Dynamical

Did you happen to get any decent runs in at all? I'm just curious. Must be tough hooking that monster up

Not really. I’m new to the 15” conversion so I’m figuring my tire pressures out plus I’ve got new double adjustable shocks that I’m dialing in the settings on. So I did a couple of 1/8 mile runs to try and figure my 60’ game out. Good news is I’ve been going over my results and setup with Kelly from Kelltrac and he’s been a big help. Hopefully have a better go of it next time out. But every time you make significant changes there’s a learning process to get it squared away.

[Dynamical]

Originally Posted by Joshinator99

Not really. I’m new to the 15” conversion so I’m figuring my tire pressures out plus I’ve got new double adjustable shocks that I’m dialing in the settings on. So I did a couple of 1/8 mile runs to try and figure my 60’ game out. Good news is I’ve been going over my results and setup with Kelly from Kelltrac and he’s been a big help. Hopefully have a better go of it next time out. But every time you make significant changes there’s a learning process to get it squared away.

Yeah that’s for sure dude. The learning curve with changes like that on a car with that much power can be a handful!