[wnta1ss]

Originally Posted by mjk3888

Hadn't thought of using throttle to bring the rear back. I was thinking maybe if I had released the brakes the rear would've stop trying to come around the front.

I agree with him, careful throttle application would have transferred some weight back onto the rear tires, which could have stopped the spin.

[Jimbeau11]

Originally Posted by TrackClub

I can attest to it as i had tracked my Stang for a few yrs and TC was completely unpredictable if not outright dangerous even in the wet.
Always had to turn it off but the car felt well balanced and easy to drive anyway.

My comment had nothing to do with Mustangs.

[TrackClub]

Originally Posted by Jimbeau11

My comment had nothing to do with Mustangs.

And mine had nothing to do with it. I replied to Norm's post.

[Norm Peterson]

Originally Posted by Jimbeau11

My comment had nothing to do with Mustangs.

I took "Yes you are. " - clearly as a comment made in lighthearted spirit - to mean that you thought I might be relying on traction control. Sorry if that's not what you meant.

The bottom line for me is that car has managed to make me uneasy about every car's electronic TC. Too many decades of driving cars without TC, I guess.


Norm

[mjk3888]

Originally Posted by Norm Peterson

I took "Yes you are. " - clearly as a comment made in lighthearted spirit - to mean that you thought I might be relying on traction control. Sorry if that's not what you meant.

The bottom line for me is that car has managed to make me uneasy about every car's electronic TC. Too many decades of driving cars without TC, I guess.


Norm

PTM is a little different to standard traction control more suited to dialing in a specific amount of restriction. I think its more like the sophisticated systems in modern super sports cars like the AMG GT-R

old video but this explains how the first gen PTM systems worked.

[Hops]

What is that car passing the lotus at 1:35 before he has his off? It looks like a serious endurance prototype like a imsl lmp2 car?

[Jimbeau11]

Originally Posted by Norm Peterson

I took "Yes you are. " - clearly as a comment made in lighthearted spirit - to mean that you thought I might be relying on traction control. Sorry if that's not what you meant.

The bottom line for me is that car has managed to make me uneasy about every car's electronic TC. Too many decades of driving cars without TC, I guess.


Norm

Totally lighthearted , but definitely wasn't poking at your Mustang. I was referring to some of the interesting observations from the video associated with TC light coming on.

[Jimbeau11]

Originally Posted by TrackClub

And mine had nothing to do with it. I replied to Norm's post.

Sorry!

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by Hops

What is that car passing the lotus at 1:35 before he has his off? It looks like a serious endurance prototype like a imsl lmp2 car?

Looks like a Radical.

[Hops]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

Looks like a Radical.

Really? I didn't know Radicals have enclosed cockpits, thought they were all open ... cool!

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by Hops

Really? I didn't know Radicals have enclosed cockpits, thought they were all open ... cool!

I think they are close to 50/50 split now on open cockpit vs closed. Lately I've seen seeing more closed cockpit ones.

[TrackClub]

Originally Posted by Jimbeau11

Sorry!

No probs

[TrackClub]

Originally Posted by mjk3888

PTM is a little different to standard traction control more suited to dialing in a specific amount of restriction. I think its more like the sophisticated systems in modern super sports cars like the AMG GT-R

old video but this explains how the first gen PTM systems worked.

Agree. PTM is on a completey different level and very much mimics a race system. Also, it is incredibly linear and not intrusive at all even in Sport1 with Stabilitrak on. It takes a higher level of ability to sense the car to know it is there. It is also capable of very fast laptimes. I prefer Race as it is leaves yaw angle management up to a driver, but i do use Sport1 when i have non coach passengers in. Cheers!

[Norm Peterson]

Originally Posted by mjk3888

PTM is a little different to standard traction control more suited to dialing in a specific amount of restriction. I think its more like the sophisticated systems in modern super sports cars like the AMG GT-R

old video but this explains how the first gen PTM systems worked.

I understand the concept.

It's just that the situation I'm coming from has a TC=on condition that's exactly like its TC=off condition (except for the status of the TC OFF light).


Norm