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Old 12-18-2018, 10:35 AM   #15
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On your remote tune, how do you get wideband with your sct hand held? I have one that came with the supercharger... but I already had HPT. It is still locked and I may pay for the $150 for the reset, or just sell it and for cheap. I've been waiting for HPT small plug in deal with the wideband input cable it has been coming soon for about a year.
I got my wideband with this: https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=541031
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Old 12-18-2018, 10:41 AM   #16
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Look forward to the results with the smooth idle cam.
Ted insists that the hp/torque curves for his smooth vs rough idle cams will be virtually identical in my application. I wrestled with the cam decision - I enjoy the lopey idle as much as anyone, but I ultimately decided to take the stealth approach.
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Old 12-18-2018, 10:57 AM   #17
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cool thanks, looks like it take a wide band thru a 30 buck cable, way easier than lugging my laptop around. Sorry for the thread jack.
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Old 12-18-2018, 11:37 AM   #18
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Ted insists that the hp/torque curves for his smooth vs rough idle cams will be virtually identical in my application. I wrestled with the cam decision - I enjoy the lopey idle as much as anyone, but I ultimately decided to take the stealth approach.
Lopey Idle gets old...that is why I am interested in hearing your build with the smooth idle cam. Almost nobody goes with the smooth idle cam so it's hard to find idle clips of it. There are some 5th gens but not 6th.
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Old 12-20-2018, 08:25 AM   #19
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so stupid question I guess.
to digress on this, what's the benefit of having a "boosted" cam vs our stock? my tuner also insists that a boosted stage 1 cam is suggestion. something about efficiency. as you can see by my build and the other cars I own. efficient is not my forte
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Old 12-20-2018, 08:47 AM   #20
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The stock SS cam is bigger than the LT4 cam and makes more HP all other variables constrained. A bigger cam, especially on the exhaust side is just going to move more air, makes more HP. Bigger in this example is more lift and duration. Also the supercharged car needs more fuel and here is where more HP comes into play because there are 7.5mm 7.85mm and 8.2mm cam lobes for fuel, stock is 6.5mm. You are limited by the factory fuel lobe. I don't know the WHP limits of the stock cam and fuel lobe (with out going to a secondary injection system). Around 650 WHP with bigbore pump and LT4 injectors... and few want to test the fueling limits on a FI, cast piston engine. So fuel lobe alone can add far more fuel and the lobe is the fuel increase rating 7.5 is 32 percent, 7.85mm is 38 percent and dunno 8.2 lobe is %%. The stuff ain't linear and sorry fluid dynamics class for me was more than 40 years ago.
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Old 12-20-2018, 08:50 AM   #21
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so stupid question I guess.
to digress on this, what's the benefit of having a "boosted" cam vs our stock? my tuner also insists that a boosted stage 1 cam is suggestion. something about efficiency. as you can see by my build and the other cars I own. efficient is not my forte
smooth cams = "Oldman Cams" Proud to have cams named after me My stage one cam is surprisingly smooth.
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Old 12-20-2018, 09:25 AM   #22
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smooth cams = "Oldman Cams" Proud to have cams named after me My stage one cam is surprisingly smooth.
I'm interested to see just how smooth my Jannetty smooth idle cam really is. A little barely perceptible lope is fine but I really don't want a cam that rocks the car - been there, done that many times in my younger days.
As Oldman stated in a previous message, the fuel lobe is the primary reason for going with an aftermarket cam.
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Old 12-23-2018, 10:17 PM   #23
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Day 2: blower and heads off. Intake valves look good at 14.6k miles.
Should be able to get the motor out on my next session. Had to knock off around 5 to go to another damn Christmas party lol!
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Old 12-25-2018, 06:49 PM   #24
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I'm interested to see just how smooth my Jannetty smooth idle cam really is. A little barely perceptible lope is fine but I really don't want a cam that rocks the car - been there, done that many times in my younger days.
As Oldman stated in a previous message, the fuel lobe is the primary reason for going with an aftermarket cam.
Looking forward to seeing your results. I think the rough idle cam is pretty smooth.

Looks like you are having fun now.
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Old 12-25-2018, 06:52 PM   #25
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so stupid question I guess.
to digress on this, what's the benefit of having a "boosted" cam vs our stock? my tuner also insists that a boosted stage 1 cam is suggestion. something about efficiency. as you can see by my build and the other cars I own. efficient is not my forte
Old man seems to have given a really great answer, but I would add a couple things:

1. The increased fuel love allows you to get more fuel into the system and that allows more power more safely.
2. Along with the cam, you will be adding several other parts, springs, rods, the kit that also includes strengthened part a over stock. My opinion is that is also the time to add forged pistons, but many stay with stock internals.

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Old 12-25-2018, 08:59 PM   #26
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We pulled mine out from the top, guessing that's what your are doing. How much boost are you planning to make?
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Old 12-26-2018, 08:32 AM   #27
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We pulled mine out from the top, guessing that's what your are doing. How much boost are you planning to make?
I'm pulling out the top. Hoping i can drop the cradle a bit, tilt the tranny and get enough clearance to pull the motor forward enough to separate the motor/transmission. From what i gather, it's not particularly easy on an m6 car. I planned to pull the motor today but I'm having second thoughts, I feel like shit - running a fever and about to cough up both of my lungs lol! I'm gonna load up on ibuprofen and reassess in an hour or so.

I'm starting out with an 85mm pulley so i should be making 8 -9 psi. I think this will work well with E70 or so. Still hoping to have enough headroom on fuel to just pull up to an e85 pump and fill 'er up without worrying about mixing.
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Old 12-26-2018, 12:26 PM   #28
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I think that's a good choice to start. I forgot you had an M6. Enjoy
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