Do this was an interesting discovery 😕

HYPER1LE · 11-15-2017, 06:02 PM

So, as some of you have seen, yesterday I swapped out my OEM 2017 SS 1LE wheels and tires (as mounted at the factory), and, to my surprise, discovered that since taking delivery of the vehicle back in March 2017, I have been driving around with one front tire mounted backward. The "INSIDE" of this asymmetrical tire was facing outside while the other front tire (see pictures of both fronts) and was mounted correctly. Both tears were correct. Now, I'm pretty knowledgeable about this sort of thing and tire types (asymmetrical, directional, all-season, summer-only, etc), so I feel a little frustrated with myself that I only just noticed this after 8 months and nearly 9,000 miles. So, the lesson here is never assume anything, check everything. On the bright side, I never noticed any performance deficit.

Lerch98 · 11-15-2017, 06:37 PM

So these tires have a right and left side?

CamaroBody · 11-15-2017, 06:43 PM

8 months@ 9k miles assuming you don't wash/detail your own car. the tread is pretty visible on a Camaro

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HYPER1LE · 11-15-2017, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lerch98

So these tires have a right and left side?

Yes, they're asymmetrical in their tread design. Wider tread blocks on the outside edge for dry cornering grip and narrower blocks on the inside edge for wet performance.

HYPER1LE · 11-15-2017, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by CamaroBody

8 months@ 9k miles assuming you don't wash/detail your own car. the tread is pretty visible on a Camaro

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I know. I know. And only I have been washing and detailing it. Like I said, I'm a bit frustrated with myself that this escaped my attention to detail. I inspect for this, and have caught this mistake in the past, with other cars I have owned when getting tires changed. But, this is my first experience actually finding this error from the factory.

Lerch98 · 11-15-2017, 07:50 PM

This explains my traction problem.
Its hard to keep the tires from wheel spinning under hard acceleration and when biting second and third gear. Lots of wheel spin and the back end all over the place. At first I thought the clutch went out, but then the back end slid around.

What happened was I took the car in to the dealership for free oil change (Yes 10 qts) and they said they rotated the the tires too. WTF, with 2200 miles I didn't want them to do it, but they did. I said the car has big a littles (different sizes front and back) and the service writter Dude said it was a side to side rotate.

And the car doesn't corner as well as it should. I was wondering if they ####ed it up, or if I was tripping or these tires were like big wheel tires in temperatures below 40F.

Thanks for the post. I was wondering, and now I know.
I'll change the tires back.

MoreSpeed · 11-15-2017, 08:41 PM

Actually, in dry, you don't get much performance difference having them mounted wrong. It is in the wet that you have to worry about it. Water is not funneled away correctly on the mismounted tire.

Homer2 · 11-15-2017, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lerch98

This explains my traction problem.
Its hard to keep the tires from wheel spinning under hard acceleration and when biting second and third gear. Lots of wheel spin and the back end all over the place. At first I thought the clutch went out, but then the back end slid around.

What happened was I took the car in to the dealership for free oil change (Yes 10 qts) and they said they rotated the the tires too. WTF, with 2200 miles I didn't want them to do it, but they did. I said the car has big a littles (different sizes front and back) and the service writter Dude said it was a side to side rotate.

And the car doesn't corner as well as it should. I was wondering if they ####ed it up, or if I was tripping or these tires were like big wheel tires in temperatures below 40F.

Thanks for the post. I was wondering, and now I know.
I'll change the tires back.

Umm, I'm not great with science or math - BUT - if they just moved them side to side.. then the outsides are still outsides. Yes?

Lerch98 · 11-15-2017, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Homer2

Umm, I'm not great with science or math - BUT - if they just moved them side to side.. then the outsides are still outsides. Yes?

Yah, I got to check that out.
Aren't the tread blocks canted?

HYPER1LE · 11-15-2017, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Homer2

Umm, I'm not great with science or math - BUT - if they just moved them side to side.. then the outsides are still outsides. Yes?

Yes. You are correct. Only can do side to side same axle (asymmetric only; directional nope, unless dismount/remount and only if symmetric) if with staggered-size tire widths. I believe the I4's wheel/tire size is the same all around (non-RS models) and perhaps V6 non-RS models.

Eric SS · 11-15-2017, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lerch98

This explains my traction problem.
Its hard to keep the tires from wheel spinning under hard acceleration and when biting second and third gear. Lots of wheel spin and the back end all over the place. At first I thought the clutch went out, but then the back end slid around.

What happened was I took the car in to the dealership for free oil change (Yes 10 qts) and they said they rotated the the tires too. WTF, with 2200 miles I didn't want them to do it, but they did. I said the car has big a littles (different sizes front and back) and the service writter Dude said it was a side to side rotate.

And the car doesn't corner as well as it should. I was wondering if they ####ed it up, or if I was tripping or these tires were like big wheel tires in temperatures below 40F.

Thanks for the post. I was wondering, and now I know.
I'll change the tires back.

This won’t have any affect on your dry traction if you swap them side to side

GA Camaro 2SS · 11-15-2017, 10:18 PM

Checking mine in the morning. Thanks for pointing it out !!!

pjz1082 · 11-16-2017, 02:38 PM

Funny you posted this because I just notice mine last week. Front wheel is mounted inside out. Purchased April 2016...LOL

Marty McFlew · 11-16-2017, 03:08 PM

Probably explains why your car was handling so terribly.

11-15-2017, 06:02 PM	#1
HYPER1LE Drives: 2017 Chevrolet Camaro SS 1LE HBM Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Acworth, GA Posts: 316	Do this was an interesting discovery 😕 So, as some of you have seen, yesterday I swapped out my OEM 2017 SS 1LE wheels and tires (as mounted at the factory), and, to my surprise, discovered that since taking delivery of the vehicle back in March 2017, I have been driving around with one front tire mounted backward. The "INSIDE" of this asymmetrical tire was facing outside while the other front tire (see pictures of both fronts) and was mounted correctly. Both tears were correct. Now, I'm pretty knowledgeable about this sort of thing and tire types (asymmetrical, directional, all-season, summer-only, etc), so I feel a little frustrated with myself that I only just noticed this after 8 months and nearly 9,000 miles. So, the lesson here is never assume anything, check everything. On the bright side, I never noticed any performance deficit. Attached Images

11-15-2017, 06:43 PM	#3
CamaroBody Drives: Hyper Blue 2SS Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: CA Posts: 1,160	8 months@ 9k miles assuming you don't wash/detail your own car. the tread is pretty visible on a Camaro . __________________ 2SS, Hyper Blue, 8-Speed Automatic, NPP Exhaust, Magnetic Ride Control, Sunroof, Navigation, 5-Spoke Low-Gloss Black Wheels, Black Bowtie Emblems, Cargo Mat/Net Mods: XPEL - Hood, Bumper, Headlights, & Side Mirrors JWM - Side Markers ZL1 Addons - Deluxe Rock Guards & Red Lift Pads GM - Dark Tail Lamps MRR - Gloss Black M017s

11-15-2017, 08:41 PM	#7
MoreSpeed Drives: 2017 Hyper Blue A10 ZL1 Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: New England Posts: 716	Actually, in dry, you don't get much performance difference having them mounted wrong. It is in the wet that you have to worry about it. Water is not funneled away correctly on the mismounted tire. __________________ - Life is a highway... I want to ride it all night long... Sold 2010 997 GT3, 2016 WRX, 2006 997 C2S, 2003 996 C4S, 2001 Boxster S, 1997 E420 AMG etc..

11-15-2017, 06:37 PM	#2
Lerch98 Drives: 2017 2SS black on black on black. Join Date: May 2017 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 276	So these tires have a right and left side?

11-15-2017, 07:50 PM	#6
Lerch98 Drives: 2017 2SS black on black on black. Join Date: May 2017 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 276	This explains my traction problem. Its hard to keep the tires from wheel spinning under hard acceleration and when biting second and third gear. Lots of wheel spin and the back end all over the place. At first I thought the clutch went out, but then the back end slid around. What happened was I took the car in to the dealership for free oil change (Yes 10 qts) and they said they rotated the the tires too. WTF, with 2200 miles I didn't want them to do it, but they did. I said the car has big a littles (different sizes front and back) and the service writter Dude said it was a side to side rotate. And the car doesn't corner as well as it should. I was wondering if they ####ed it up, or if I was tripping or these tires were like big wheel tires in temperatures below 40F. Thanks for the post. I was wondering, and now I know. I'll change the tires back.

11-15-2017, 10:18 PM	#12
GA Camaro 2SS Drives: 2017 Camaro 2SS Convertible Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Atlanta, GA. Posts: 210	Checking mine in the morning. Thanks for pointing it out !!!

11-16-2017, 02:38 PM	#13
pjz1082 Drives: 2016 Camaro 1LT Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 648	Funny you posted this because I just notice mine last week. Front wheel is mounted inside out. Purchased April 2016...LOL

11-16-2017, 03:08 PM	#14
Marty McFlew Banned Drives: 17 SuperSport Camaro 6 on the Flo' Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: USA Posts: 1,507	Probably explains why your car was handling so terribly.

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