01-16-2020, 10:28 PM | #29 |
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I dont think aero will make up for 110hp deficit.. 200 lbs lighter HELPS though.. but once traction is not factor, hp wins.. esp when rate of change of speed is slower.
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Absolutely! These tests will come down to whether or not the track gives the 500 room to make up in the straights what it looses in the curves. Will win some, and lose some.
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I think they're just milking this comparison out. I'm sure we'll see another article on track times and such.
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I think(just an opinion of course), that we will see a larger gap in performance between the CFTP and the Base than we see between the ZLE and the ZL1, so based on that thought I think the ZL1 will shine on track quite a bit compared to the base 500. Isn't the respective weight gain between the base versions and track version of each car worse for the 500? I need to look up the weights of all 4 when I get a chance, may not be.
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On top of that by then end of 1/4 the gt500 is in 4th gear, it's shift points are more similar to a manual car than these new high gear autos. 5th is the last true performance gear and 6th, and 7th are basically both overdrives iirc. I think the dct advantage in straight line performance is in its shift speeds, firmness, and efficiency with far less power loss compared to a torque converter car. That coupled with the 110 hp advantage, more than 110 hp when talking about what actually makes it to the wheels, is why the gt500 pulls away imo.
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this will sound nitpicky but I assume the ZL1 has something like blind spot monitoring standard right? which is why you need the electronics package on the GT500, but on Ford when you add that you get the premium audio upgrade and nav. nav is still optional on the ZL1 and there is no premium audio option But your point still stands the GT500 will be more expensive no matter what |
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To many variables for out the door price. MSRP in the context of this kind of discussion is only way to go. |
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Exactly... and this one will be a sloooowww milk.
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In the article they mentioned the ZL1 being much easier to drive fast and the 500 feeling like it could bite you at any minute. I can only imagine the 500's suspension is much more planted and confidence inspiring than the base, this plus the fact the power levels are the same, leads me to believe the base will be too much of a handful to keep up with a ZL1. Maybe the price of the CFTP also makes me expect a bigger gap, since the 1LE package is only $6500 I think? Maybe $7500? Stands to reason(for me), that you get double the improvement when paying almost triple the cost for the respective track packages. Who knows, but the speculation is part of the fun. Can't wait to see the real track results and reviews.
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Personally I think the ZLE vs CFTP is going to be closer than the base models, with the GT500 most likely outpacing the ZL1 on most tracks.
The 1LE gives you a far more track focused package than the CFTP does, which should give it more of an edge over the base car than the CFTP package does. This is the result I think most of us were expecting, considering the time they've had to benchmark the ZL1. Give us the rest of the comparisons already! |
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