[bradmo9]

803 rwhp still stock boost what is going to make when turned up to 20 plus psi??



https://www.youtube.com/embed/mXaWkyaWNOE

[TreedYou]

Originally Posted by bradmo9

803 rwhp still stock boost what is going to make when turned up to 20 plus psi??



https://www.youtube.com/embed/mXaWkyaWNOE

Pretty crazy for just the beginning, now to put all that to the ground

[ZRacerLE]

Originally Posted by TreedYou

Pretty crazy for just the beginning, now to put all that to the ground

Needs AWD for sure

[NW-99SS]

Originally Posted by SlitherByU

No but I was seriously thinking about getting a plate that says "Darth R"

Definitely! Would be perfect on your 350R!

[RobbyBeefcake87]

Originally Posted by bradmo9

Lund racing 2020 gt500 mods: tune , octane boost , mid pipes and air box removed makes 786 rwhp. Pulley and e85 probably close to 900rwhp


https://www.svtperformance.com/threa...0rwhp.1181783/

Idk if that's what you meant by midpipes but they got rid of the cats as well according to Alex who seems worried about their longevity. That should be everyone's first mod.

[Grimfrost769]

So, what is it going to take for a ZL1 1LE to compete with the CFTP? Can it with upgrades?

[NW-99SS]

Originally Posted by Grimfrost769

So, what is it going to take for a ZL1 1LE to compete with the CFTP? Can it with upgrades?

Already posted an amateur lap hitting 1:58.7 with a manual.

That is compared to Pro Randy's 1:56.3 with the DCT GT500 CFTP.

A10 will certainly lend to a faster lap time, as will a pro driver. We can only speculate how much time can be made up. Of course there remains the issue of price and tire difference - those new Cup Sport 2's are incredible (standard on the CFTP).

[Grimfrost769]

Originally Posted by NW-99SS

Already posted an amateur lap hitting 1:58.7 with a manual.

That is compared to Pro Randy's 1:56.3 with the DCT GT500 CFTP.

A10 will certainly lend to a faster lap time, as will a pro driver. We can only speculate how much time can be made up. Of course there remains the issue of price and tire difference - those new Cup Sport 2's are incredible (standard on the CFTP).

My question isn't the price. My question is what will it take for any ZL1 1LE to beat the GT500 CFTP on a road track. People been screaming for Randy to post a time with both cars on the same day.


Say if the GT500 CFTP is just plan faster after all that with Randy laps..what needs to happen to make the ZLE beat it? Tires and more power?


If it was an issue of price; The ZLE can be made to compete with the CFTP for less money than the entire price of a CFTP, obviously.

[ST1LE]

Originally Posted by Grimfrost769

My question isn't the price. My question is what will it take for any ZL1 1LE to beat the GT500 CFTP on a road track. People been screaming for Randy to post a time with both cars on the same day.


Say if the GT500 CFTP is just plan faster after all that with Randy laps..what needs to happen to make the ZLE beat it? Tires and more power?


If it was an issue of price; The ZLE can be made to compete with the CFTP for less money than the entire price of a CFTP, obviously.

He answered your question. His post highlighted all we know so far. We have a time in the CFTP from Randy, and it is just ahead of an amateur time at the same track. Seems they will be very close, no way to answer you question until we get more data.

I can say, the ZLE does not need more tire or more grip. The ZLE will carry more speed through the turns, I am sure, if anything it would only need a small pump in power, but I think they will end up being neck and neck except on the longest of tracks.

[NW-99SS]

Originally Posted by ST1LE

He answered your question. His post highlighted all we know so far. We have a time in the CFTP from Randy, and it is just ahead of an amateur time at the same track. Seems they will be very close, no way to answer you question until we get more data.

I can say, the ZLE does not need more tire or more grip. The ZLE will carry more speed through the turns, I am sure, if anything it would only need a small pump in power, but I think they will end up being neck and neck except on the longest of tracks.

Agreed - and VIR has two of the longest straights - so this tells us that the difference in times I posted are to the benefit of the CFTP GT500 since the other tracks in NA are more technical and won't allow a higher HP car to utilize long straights to make up time. This is even more clear in the C8 vs GT500 video that MT posted even though that is the base GT500 in that video (still driven by Randy P, but is slower than the ZLE amateur).

[TheRealJA105]

Originally Posted by Rodan

It's really more like $84k to option the GT500 equivalently to the ZLE, and you can't even get heated/cooled Recaros, heated steering wheel or PDR in the GT500.

+1 on the interior. Even the Shelbys are awful.

IMHO, the 'base' GT500 with handling package and a set of Cup 2's will be very close to the CFTP in track times.

Yep, but watch out, you don't want to offend all of our SS1LE guys here that deny the wheels and tires are 90% of the advantage it has over a regular SS.
Even a ZL1 with ZLE tires will close that gap immensely.

Originally Posted by TreedYou

So when I visit the track and see Camaro's and Corvette's blowing off the tires and having traction problems and going slower because the DA is +500-1000 does it mean those cars are defective or "poorly" built?
I feel like you haven't been to a drag strip as much as you put on, to be saying some of these things.

You are correct any of these high hp rwd cars can have traction problems across the world at any time. His drag strip knowledge is proving to be almost as good as his road course knowledge...

Originally Posted by GossipSquirrelJelena

But I digress. A lot of your posts have to baffle even the most hard core Camaro guy.

Bingo

Originally Posted by ST1LE

He answered your question. His post highlighted all we know so far. We have a time in the CFTP from Randy, and it is just ahead of an amateur time at the same track. Seems they will be very close, no way to answer you question until we get more data.

I can say, the ZLE does not need more tire or more grip. The ZLE will carry more speed through the turns, I am sure, if anything it would only need a small pump in power, but I think they will end up being neck and neck except on the longest of tracks.

BINGO!

[minn19]

Originally Posted by Grimfrost769

My question isn't the price. My question is what will it take for any ZL1 1LE to beat the GT500 CFTP on a road track. People been screaming for Randy to post a time with both cars on the same day.


Say if the GT500 CFTP is just plan faster after all that with Randy laps..what needs to happen to make the ZLE beat it? Tires and more power?


If it was an issue of price; The ZLE can be made to compete with the CFTP for less money than the entire price of a CFTP, obviously.

Talent. As usual it'll be a drivers race between non pros in these cars.

[RobbyBeefcake87]

Originally Posted by NW-99SS

Love the Darth Vader 350R Slither! Please tell me you have the full costume to wear when driving it



6060 would be easier, but it not sure it would hold the power as well as the 7070.

My point was that it's easy for Ford to incorporate a production manual in the GT500 as a high HP variant already exists.

An actual manual transaxle that will handle the LT2 torque in the C8 is a bit more tricky, there are a couple that come close to the rating.

Serious question, not trolling, what makes you say that? There's a school of thought that the trans with less gears is usually a little bit beefier, I know there's guys that still prefer built 5 speeds. Have you seen anything that says the c7 7070 is stronger than the c6 zr1 or gt500 tr6060, which is widely well regarded? Or if the c7 zr1 tr7070 is any stronger than the one on the z06?

We're in agreement about the 7 speed being the better choice btw. I just see the 6060 as the easier option for a company that seems reluctant to add a manual anyhow.

[GossipSquirrelJelena]

Is this serious? Maybe Martinjlm can comment.

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2019/11...ss-than-80000/