Throttle Response, Beyond Porting - Page 13

Lazerbrainz2k3 · 06-24-2019, 05:33 AM

It's been asked a couple times, only available for the V8s for now but they're working on others

68Vette · 06-24-2019, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by crankaholic

Installed mine last night and got though the re-learning procedure today...

Without sounding like a noob, why do you have to do a re-learn, can't one simply disconnect the negative post of the battery before installing and once finished reconnect and it's good to go?

Z0Tex · 06-24-2019, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by 68Vette

Without sounding like a noob, why do you have to do a re-learn, can't one simply disconnect the negative post of the battery before installing and once finished reconnect and it's good to go?

The instructions say you can do that, but it will take longer for the ECU to learn the new throttle body's behavior. Like several "drive cycles" worth of time, which depending on how often you drive your car, could be weeks. Disconnecting the battery for that length of time clears out the memory for the TB settings and the relearn process happens much, much faster.

My new Soler TB should be delivered today. Can't wait!

Mike@SolerPerformanceLLC · 06-24-2019, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by 68Vette

Without sounding like a noob, why do you have to do a re-learn, can't one simply disconnect the negative post of the battery before installing and once finished reconnect and it's good to go?

What Z0tex said, and let me add that even if you change a stock TB by another stock TB, the shop manual instructs you to reset the ECM TB learned values, and do the re-learn for the new one.

Experience shows that it is not strictly necessary, most times it works just fine and when it doesn't it is not catastrophic. You might get a temporary code that you can erase and should not show up again or a little rough idle that it should learn in a few starts.

Mike@SolerPerformanceLLC · 06-24-2019, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by vidkidZ

I didn't have much luck finding the connector or the parts online. Hopefully Mike@SolerPerformanceLLC has an idea where to get these parts as I can't be the 1st or the last to have lost them to the engine bay.

vidkidz, we apologize for the mishap, we just found out about these new connectors on the 2019's.

It looks like it is p/n 2272975-5 made by Tyco Electronics (TE/Amp). See attached; could you verify?

I'll try to get the connector and terminal (pins) for you to replace it. In the meantime, if you find another solution please send us the quoted price and we'll pay it off for you.

The same goes for all other customers that accidentally broke the locking tab.

Thanks,

MackSteelPrivateEye · 06-24-2019, 10:17 AM

Whats the Failure rate of a stock TB on a 6th Gen SS? Suppose you get a core back with 60, 70k + miles on it and you port it? Isn't there more chance of failure sooner with that type of mileage? How do we know how many miles is on the used PTB you ship out to us?

Mike@SolerPerformanceLLC · 06-24-2019, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by MackSteelPrivateEye

Whats the Failure rate of a stock TB on a 6th Gen SS? Suppose you get a core back with 60, 70k + miles on it and you port it? Isn't there more chance of failure sooner with that type of mileage? How do we know how many miles is on the used PTB you ship out to us?

We have seen zero mechanical failures, zero electric motor failures, and only one sensor failure in more than 100 exchanges so far.

We stock all of these spares, that allows us to give you a 1-year warranty regardless of your choice of new, exchange, or reworking your own. After that, we'll still help you if anything were to fail, for a reasonable fee. I don't see it being more than $50 for a sensor or motor replacement. These units should last a lifetime mechanically, only may need cleaning from time to time, which you can easily do.

RyanR623 · 06-24-2019, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike@SolerPerformanceLLC

We have seen zero mechanical failures, zero electric motor failures, and only one sensor failure in more than 100 exchanges so far.

We stock all of these spares, that allows us to give you a 1-year warranty regardless of your choice of new, exchange, or reworking your own. After that, we'll still help you if anything were to fail, for a reasonable fee. I don't see it being more than $50 for a sensor or motor replacement. These units should last a lifetime mechanically, only may need cleaning from time to time, which you can easily do.

If i were to buy the TB without sending mine in, do you start with a new or used TB?

Mike@SolerPerformanceLLC · 06-24-2019, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by RyanR623

If i were to buy the TB without sending mine in, do you start with a new or used TB?

Brand NEW. Used ones are only for exchanges. Thanks.

RyanR623 · 06-24-2019, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike@SolerPerformanceLLC

Brand NEW. Used ones are only for exchanges. Thanks.

Awesome thanks! Will be ordering soon.

68Vette · 06-24-2019, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Z0Tex

The instructions say you can do that, but it will take longer for the ECU to learn the new throttle body's behavior. Like several "drive cycles" worth of time, which depending on how often you drive your car, could be weeks. Disconnecting the battery for that length of time clears out the memory for the TB settings and the relearn process happens much, much faster.

My new Soler TB should be delivered today. Can't wait!

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Originally Posted by Mike@SolerPerformanceLLC

What Z0tex said, and let me add that even if you change a stock TB by another stock TB, the shop manual instructs you to reset the ECM TB learned values, and do the re-learn for the new one.

Experience shows that it is not strictly necessary, most times it works just fine and when it doesn't it is not catastrophic. You might get a temporary code that you can erase and should not show up again or a little rough idle that it should learn in a few starts.

Thanks for the response from both of you guys, I'll be ordering one within the next week or two.

Spedee · 06-24-2019, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ZL1 1LE

Wondering if you considered putting the OEM back on and sending the TM to Soler for further modification?

I did but Mike suggested modding my OEM and then try and sell the Mamo. Price is the same.

Z0Tex · 06-24-2019, 12:13 PM

My new Soler MTB arrived today. Going on a damn-near stock '18 SS 1LE. I had Mike add a little something extra to the blade. Looks great and I can't wait to get it on the car to see how much the driveability will improve.

Grumpy1 · 06-24-2019, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Z0Tex

My new Soler MTB arrived today. Going on a damn-near stock '18 SS 1LE. I had Mike add a little something extra to the blade. Looks great and I can't wait to get it on the car to see how much the driveability will improve.

Next will be to get in line for a PRAY ported stock IM after CamaroFest.

Sweet.............

06-24-2019, 12:13 PM	#181
Z0Tex @texan.1le Drives: '18 Camaro 1SS 1LE, PDR Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Temple, TX Posts: 182	My new Soler MTB arrived today. Going on a damn-near stock '18 SS 1LE. I had Mike add a little something extra to the blade. Looks great and I can't wait to get it on the car to see how much the driveability will improve. __________________ '18 1SS 1LE - "Mongoose" '15 Malibu 2LT - daily

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Lazerbrainz2k3 Drives: 2017 Camaro 2SS - M6, NPP, MRC Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Delco, PA Posts: 971	It's been asked a couple times, only available for the V8s for now but they're working on others

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MackSteelPrivateEye Banned Drives: 6 on the Flo' Super Sport Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: md Posts: 1,925	Whats the Failure rate of a stock TB on a 6th Gen SS? Suppose you get a core back with 60, 70k + miles on it and you port it? Isn't there more chance of failure sooner with that type of mileage? How do we know how many miles is on the used PTB you ship out to us?

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