[LateBrakeU2]

Originally Posted by doc7000

I picture the Z/28 Camaro being essentially a SS Camaro with the ZL1 1LE kit and body panels, carbon ceramic brakes, and they need an engine for the package which is the tricky part. I would much rather see a more powerful 6.2L engine or something in that area so that it doesn't need the drive line and engine weight that comes with the LT4 or even an LT5 engine. I think that such a vehicle can come in at the low 3,600 pound weight area which is where it would need to be. Also take the SS at $37,000 and add $9,000 for the ZL1 1LE kit brings you to $46,000, add another what $5,000 for CC brakes and you have a car that comes in at just over $50,000.

I would order one tomorrow configured like that, just don't think it's dooable at that price.

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by 2SSRS@Gen5diy

Here is why, if it comes it will be the last new model in the 6th gen line, so it will be the point where the 7th gen has to pass, if it comes the Z/28 will be the marker pint to pass in the next GEN camaro, that's what they did with the 5th GEN Z/28.

I like to see how far they can push the envelope in this GEN before the next one comes out, It be nice to see a sub 7:00 ring time in a CAMARO...

I get that about pushing the envelope for the current gen and future gens. But the car also has to make business sense. An all out pretty much race camaro that could sticker in the 90s or even six digits makes no sense to me. I also do not see anyway an N/A Z/28 is going to outperform the Z1LE. Also with so much "heritage and prestige and history" on the 5th gen Z/28, the car would have to be N.A. That type of car IMO might be better suited to being a COPO style car rather than a production model. Take what they learn from that then use it

[2SSRS@Gen5diy]

Originally Posted by shaffe

I get that about pushing the envelope for the current gen and future gens. But the car also has to make business sense. An all out pretty much race camaro that could sticker in the 90s or even six digits makes no sense to me. I also do not see anyway an N/A Z/28 is going to outperform the Z1LE. Also with so much "heritage and prestige and history" on the 5th gen Z/28, the car would have to be N.A. That type of car IMO might be better suited to being a COPO style car rather than a production model. Take what they learn from that then use it

There not going to set up a shop like the COPO for the Z/28, and your right it has to make business sense, but the struts are paid for from the ZL1LE R&D DCT is coming out anyway, P.S. there out

High-torque dual clutch transmission with performance mechatronic system provides a multi-mode, tunable launch for high-end luxury cars and sports cars.

thats from Tremec.com , so that part of the R&D is done, as we know Motors are on the way out LT5 and LT7 are out or soon will be, and we all know there are more in the works, this will be a good 12-24 mounts for us internal combustion people.

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by 2SSRS@Gen5diy

There not going to set up a shop like the COPO for the Z/28, and your right it has to make business sense, but the struts are paid for from the ZL1LE R&D DCT is coming out anyway, P.S. there out thats from Tremec.com , so that part of the R&D is done, as we know Motors are on the way out LT5 and LT7 are out or soon will be, and we all know there are more in the works, this will be a good 12-24 mounts for us internal combustion people.

I just don't see a business case for making a Z/28 this all mighty performance car.

The Z/28 IMO would be better suited to like others have said ZL1 1LE aero/go fast goodies with slight bump in power. That would make it the ideal N/A track choice which IMO is what the Z/28 should be. Continue to improve the ZL1 1LE if you want a engineering experiment because I just don't see any way they can make an NA camaro outperform the Z1LE

[2SSRS@Gen5diy]

Originally Posted by shaffe

I just don't see a business case for making a Z/28 this all mighty performance car.

The Z/28 IMO would be better suited to like others have said ZL1 1LE aero/go fast goodies with slight bump in power. That would make it the ideal N/A track choice which IMO is what the Z/28 should be. Continue to improve the ZL1 1LE if you want a engineering experiment because I just don't see any way they can make an NA camaro outperform the Z1LE

LOL, that car is called the 1-2SS 1LE, GM did that, so why remake what you have, I know GM cant make a car this way but, IMO this is what GM needs to make.

Z/28:
start with a better Aero, active wing in the rear most of the ZL1LE suspension and drive line, less the M6, go with the new TR-9070 DCT 7-Speed Dual Clutch Transmission,

Dont forget the horse power for that the new Z/28 needs and old GM friend ( they used this company in the past, one of the guys they had work on that old LT5 is now high up at camaro team) Mercury Racing Reveals SB4 7.0 Automotive Crate Engine.

Can we see this in the car, if they detune it at say only 700HP its still less then the new ZR1, best part is it fits in all the dots, N.A. high rev limit 8000 RPM and it will work in the 6th gen TQ numbers are good, or they may have there own motor wink wink.

Car will need great brakes, and carbon ceramic rimes, you know it where its going so GM needs to try there luck at it.

This may be wising But i hope they Hear this.

[WILWAXU]

Z28? https://www.facebook.com/dv8motoring...49077125129116

[Iroc_Z28]

Originally Posted by WILWAXU

Z28? https://www.facebook.com/dv8motoring...49077125129116

very well could be, look to be carbon brakes on it..... or they're just testing a carbon brake option for the ZL1 1LE, and the headlights look like the base halogens?

[WILWAXU]

Originally Posted by Iroc_Z28

very well could be, look to be carbon brakes on it..... or they're just testing a carbon brake option for the ZL1 1LE

Whatever it is.. those rear brakes are HUGE

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by WILWAXU

Z28? https://www.facebook.com/dv8motoring...49077125129116

Now that’s interesting.

[LateBrakeU2]

Maybe NA is dead, how bout a ZL1 w LW Z/28 option ,LT5 and CCB's?

I mean ,how many saw the ZL1/1LE coming?. Those rear brakes look straight off the Gen 5 Z. Daytona is six weeks away..

[Bhobbs]

If it’s not n/a, leave the Z/28 badge off it, especially if it’s just a package on the ZL1.

[LateBrakeU2]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

If it’s not n/a, leave the Z/28 badge off it, especially if it’s just a package on the ZL1.

i'm with you,but for them to make a specific NA motor just for a limited production model would not fly economically. They go LT5, CCB's,take some weight off, comes in low eighties and does a sub seven minute ring time it will sell. Plug and play on the ZL1 Platform. They will need to answer the GT500, and this would fit the bill. Everyone wanted a gen 5 1LE with an LS7 option, we got the Z. Just can't see them making a mid level Z at this point.

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by LateBrakeU2

i'm with you,but for them to make a specific NA motor just for a limited production model would not fly economically. They go LT5, CCB's,take some weight off, comes in low eighties and does a sub seven minute ring time it will sell. Plug and play on the ZL1 Platform. They will need to answer the GT500, and this would fit the bill. Everyone wanted a gen 5 1LE with an LS7 option, we got the Z. Just can't see them making a mid level Z at this point.

The GT350/R can make a unique engine work. Besides, the savings from using the ZL1 1LE aero and suspension could go into covering the engine.

The GT500 will go unanswered, just like the last one.

[Reefblue42]

With the ZL1 1LE out there...I don't really understand the point of the Z/28 coming out in this generation. Why buy something this expensive (and you know it will be) when a ZL1 1LE would be quicker/faster? If it is true and they are bringing it back for the 6th gen...I pray it stays N/A, and like someone said above...does sub-seven minute ring times.