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Old 04-05-2016, 02:47 PM   #1
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Remote start on manual SS

Since the car knows what gear it is in as it is displayed in the dash. Anyone able to get the factory remote start to work with a manual car?
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Old 04-05-2016, 02:51 PM   #2
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None of the electroncs will support it and gm is against having the manual having remote start due to legal issues. Untill somebdy hacks the ECM, it wont happen and will void warranty.

It may happen as some of these cars move out of warranty in 3 yrs.
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Old 04-05-2016, 03:15 PM   #3
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Very bad Idea. Why would you want to rely solely on the Ebrake? I know I wouldn't.
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Old 04-05-2016, 08:10 PM   #4
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Very bad Idea. Why would you want to rely solely on the Ebrake? I know I wouldn't.

I use to install car electronics for a living, would not rely on just the Ebrake. With this model with the key (ignition) on it can sense that it is in gear. This is known as it displays your gear on the cluster. If the car was in any gear it just simply would not start. I use to do this with mag switches attached to the shifter assembly in the past.
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Old 04-06-2016, 04:58 AM   #5
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I use to install car electronics for a living, would not rely on just the Ebrake. With this model with the key (ignition) on it can sense that it is in gear. This is known as it displays your gear on the cluster. If the car was in any gear it just simply would not start. I use to do this with mag switches attached to the shifter assembly in the past.
I get that. You still are relying on only the ebrake to keep the car put. That may be okay if you are on a flat, but I wouldn't want to rely solely on it.
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Old 04-06-2016, 07:55 AM   #6
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I get that. You still are relying on only the ebrake to keep the car put. That may be okay if you are on a flat, but I wouldn't want to rely solely on it.

I get what you are saying now. I have not had a manual car in about 8 years but it has always been my habit to be in neutral when parked.
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Old 06-05-2016, 03:50 AM   #7
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Very bad Idea. Why would you want to rely solely on the Ebrake? I know I wouldn't.
I don't have an issue relying on an Ebrake system. They use Electric brakes on the Boeing 787 which i work on, and they work just fine.

Just saying, but it would be nice to have a remote start for the manual vehicles.
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Old 06-11-2016, 11:18 PM   #8
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None of the electroncs will support it and gm is against having the manual having remote start due to legal issues. Untill somebdy hacks the ECM, it wont happen and will void warranty.

It may happen as some of these cars move out of warranty in 3 yrs.
You can simply hotwire the clutch start switch. No hacking of the ECM needed as the ECM will think the clutch is pushed all the way in. Just make sure you park in neutral every time.
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Old 08-06-2016, 09:57 PM   #9
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That is what the e-brake is for. I don't always leave my car out of gear, but I do and don't worry about the brake holding.
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Old 01-16-2017, 05:46 AM   #10
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It might just be as simple as coding that feature to "on" and replacing your key with the one that automatic cars come with.
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Old 01-16-2017, 08:57 AM   #11
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There is a setting in the ECM to bypass the clutch pedal check before cranking the engine. Assuming you don't mind flashing the ECM, this would solve one problem. (Obviously, there are warranty concerns etc.. I just wanted to point out the setting.)

The setting is "Clutch InterlocK"... Notice the description text at the bottom of the window.

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I had a buddy who wired a remote start on a 4th gen. He had a switch for the e-brake, but didn't have a safety switch to ensure the car was in neutral... Long story short the e-brake won't hold back the torque of a starter motor and it cost him a garage door.
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Old 08-14-2017, 06:20 AM   #12
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I've always wondered this same thing. The technology is there, the car knows if its in neutral or not so why cant manual's have remote starters from the factory also??
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Old 08-14-2017, 06:19 PM   #13
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I've always wondered this same thing. The technology is there, the car knows if its in neutral or not so why cant manual's have remote starters from the factory also??
I agree. Some people will say that GM will not take on the liability because it's an electronic part that can fail but this is 2017, almost every safety system in the car works with electronic components.
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Old 08-17-2017, 01:57 AM   #14
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I know automatic trans remote starters check that the car is in park prior to allowing it to start. Usually this just intercepts a signal from a park position sensor. I was thinking if they make a kit for cars this new I could install it in a manual using that same setup but instead grab a signal off the neutral position sensor.
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