[glamcem]

I noticed a weird thing yesterday when I was at the Ridge (RMP) event.
I used the Drive Mode : Track and with all nannies off as I did before. As soon as I hit the "Define Finish Line" and hit "Record video" in the PDR menu it somehow enabled the TC and SC. I noticed that when I saw the skid mark light on the dash and it's also visible in the video below. The nannies were definitely active and car didn't want to accelerate on certain corners because of that.

Did it ever happen to anyone else or it's just me?

At the end of the video you will see me slowing down and let the others cars go

[Provoste]

Originally Posted by glamcem

I noticed a weird thing yesterday when I was at the Ridge (RMP) event.
I used the Drive Mode : Track and with all nannies off as I did before. As soon as I hit the "Define Finish Line" and hit "Record video" in the PDR menu it somehow enabled the TC and SC. I noticed that when I saw the skid mark light on the dash and it's also visible in the video below. The nannies were definitely active and car didn't want to accelerate on certain corners because of that.

Did it ever happen to anyone else or it's just me?

At the end of the video you will see me slowing down and let the others cars go

Interesting... never noticed that. Maybe it's like cruise control, if you engage cruise it automatically turns tc/sc on. New Porsches do the same. I'll try that this Friday at Mid Ohio to see if it does that to me.

[TrackClub]

Cem, any possibility you somehow managed to press TC button? That would bring all nannies back.

FYI to all: I've updated my OP per the new (clarified) findings, incl extra modes to make the post complete.

[TrackClub]

Originally Posted by SS 1LE

This is false. It seems you are misunderstanding what competitive mode is and what turns off and doesn't fully turn off in track mode while using competitive mode and PTM in certain cases.

Competitive mode is what allows access to launch control for the most part on a M6. It turns off traction control, but leaves stability control on, yet in a very laid back setting. Not much else, and this is fully available in track mode.

Just to clarify, I was indeed wrong in my statement. It IS possible to get Competitive Mode in Track by pressing TC *once*. This is consistent with the manual. However., if one presses TC *twice* it launches PTM which is very different from the prior mode (almost opposit design prinicples). So I stand corrected anmd hope this clarifies the matter. PS I've updated the OP accordingly.

[glamcem]

Originally Posted by Provoste

Interesting... never noticed that. Maybe it's like cruise control, if you engage cruise it automatically turns tc/sc on. New Porsches do the same. I'll try that this Friday at Mid Ohio to see if it does that to me.

Hmm I think you're right, I've looked at the Go Pro angle and it looks like my left hand is very close to one of those cruise control buttons. The fact that it immediately happens after I hit the start recording on the PDR screen made me think it might be related.

I will pay more attention to the CC buttons from now on , thanks

Originally Posted by TrackClub

Cem, any possibility you somehow managed to press TC button? That would bring all nannies back.

FYI to all: I've updated my OP per the new (clarified) findings, incl extra modes to make the post complete.

nope, not the case

[TrackClub]

Updated my OP cross referencing PTM modes table in post #4 I my section 3.

[SS 1LE]

Originally Posted by TrackClub

Just to clarify, I was indeed wrong in my statement. It IS possible to get Competitive Mode in Track by pressing TC *once*. This is consistent with the manual. However., if one presses TC *twice* it launches PTM which is very different from the prior mode (almost opposit design prinicples). So I stand corrected anmd hope this clarifies the matter. PS I've updated the OP accordingly.

Told you.

But it's all good, we are all here to learn from each other...

[TrackClub]

Absolutely agree!
Albeit Comp Mode and PTM Mode are apples and oranges

[G2K]

Wow, thanks to all for this information!!!!

So just a few quick questions:
Best setting for donuts? (Closed warehouse honning)
Best setting for drag?
Best setting for auto X/road course?

[SS 1LE]

Originally Posted by G2K

Wow, thanks to all for this information!!!!

So just a few quick questions:
Best setting for donuts? (Closed warehouse honning)
Best setting for drag?
Best setting for auto X/road course?

There are too many variables, like your driving skills, to make generalizations like that for each.

[G2K]

Originally Posted by SS 1LE

There are too many variables, like your driving skills, to make generalizations like that for each.

Agree 100% but I would say the most recomended or best setting and from their each user adjust to its needs/skills

[TrackClub]

SS 1LE said it best.
It all depends on your skill, appetite for risk, etc.
It is impossible to give generic advice here.
The only thing I'd say to try to help you is this:
1) if you turn all nannies off it is ALL up to your talent
2) if you use Comp Mode, stability control will be there to assist if you get out of shape, but you'll have access to full power and no traction control so watch your right foot.
3) if you pick PTM Sport 1 you will have stability control as above PLUS traction control which will "manage" power delivery on exits - this setting is likely quite safe (in theory).
4) PTM Sport 2 and Race are like the one above but with progressively more power BUT you lose stability control - so these are more advanced..

Bottom line, it is up to you based on your skill etc.
See what suites you best. Test them out in a safe environment and then decide. Nobody can do it on your behalf. Cheers!

[G2K]

Thanks it makes sense... i tried turning all nannies off but no luck. I keep the button pressed for 5+ secs and all i see is the TC light come on. Another question can i turn off all nannies on any mode? Ornwould it have to be in track?

[TEX1LE]

Is there a noticeable difference between all nannies off and track mode PTM: Race? Until I came across this thread I thought I was driving with all nannies off in track/PTM race because when you scroll down to race it says active handling off.