03-19-2015, 05:32 AM | #1 |
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SS 396 CAMARO ENGINE QUESTIONS...
My question is ..possibly a new cubic in engine from GM ...available for copo camaro nhra legal 350 396 and 327 the 396 is in question would it be possible to use that in a production car ...even limited run ss it's basically ls3 block 4.060 bore /3.825 stroke ... haven't head any talk about new motors...someone on here was saying there dropping the ls7 because of fuel constraints ...ls7 was missing the mark..6.6 is definitely smaller ..and all the parts would carry over ..just a thought.
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03-19-2015, 05:49 AM | #2 |
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Probably wouldn't meet emissions standards for a production engine ??
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03-19-2015, 06:10 AM | #3 |
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The LS engines are gone in favor of the LT series engines. so yea, you can bet on the LS7 not making it into a 6th Gen.
also im pretty sure for the into models there wont be any special engines, LT1 and LT4 would be the way they probably go. they already have the motors, may as well use em. |
03-19-2015, 07:20 AM | #4 |
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I am not sure about engine choices, but oh man, some of you younger folks on here don't understand the heritage & prestige of the "396"..... oh man that would be cool.
All I care is the car moves out & handles as good & better than its competiton
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03-19-2015, 10:33 AM | #5 |
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I've been hoping for a while for a 396 6th gen to go up against the GT350R.
Or better yet, for it to go up against the GT350 and then a z/28 version for the GT30R. That way us more common folk can afford a 396. |
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03-19-2015, 01:27 PM | #7 |
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I think its possible ...who knows I don't see a need for GMs 2.0T...so why no a V6...a detuned V6TT...and various LT1 changes .....what about HP speculation...say 325hpV6 ...380-410hpV6TT...and a 445hpLT1 ...the LS3 C6...had 430-436hp the Gen5 had 426hp...if a detune of 10 hp is a trend and it seems to be with GM then is it safe to say out Gen6 will have 435-445 HP and 440-450 TQ I think so...
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03-19-2015, 02:17 PM | #9 |
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Large cubic inch V8 engines are much harder to meet emissions requirements and I was led to believe this is the main reason for the LS7 being such a dirtier engine option. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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03-21-2015, 05:13 AM | #10 |
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Ok... this was my point. Less cubic inches less fuel....there talk was on how the ls7 just missed the fuel consumption mark ..ok next page the new lt1 is not so new..most of the dynamics of the new engine is head design and fuel delivery. .next page..they corrected that problem ..now the 396 version ls crank fits in the new lt1 assembly...next page..being that all the hype over the mudstain flat plain gt 350 crap... just think they could up the bench racing wars with the NEW CAMARO6 SS396 ... think it would be a nice throw back to our youth. It's definitely possible just like to see one of the brass hats let it through. That would be a real nice pat on the back for all the early pioneers , Yenko Gibbs Harrell Motion the list goes on.. just again would like to thank all associated with the Camaro line for all your dedication and sweat... thanks for giving us a great car.
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03-21-2015, 05:23 AM | #11 |
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Guess what I'm saying is BRING BACK THE SS396 Camaro..
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1) 6.2L is the optimal displacement with cylinder deactivation. Drop out cylinders and it's not too big that fuel economy is hurt. Not too small that it becomes weak. 2) GM dropped development of a large displacement replacement for the LS7 because the desired power level (higher than 505 HP) couldn't be achieved while meeting emission standards. The goal for the C7 Z06 was to equal C6 ZR1 performance at a much lower cost. Makes you thing twice about Mark Ruess's comment about making a ZL1 experience level assessable in the gen6 SS Quote:
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03-21-2015, 08:34 PM | #13 |
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IMO... GM went in the wrong direction. Turbo is the answer light throttle loads and infinitely adjustable boost.. the ls based engineering to this point is on par with anything they've done . the 4.8 ls was capable of 3hp per cubic Inch with a turbo. There turning around finally Cadillac has an intrest in pressure fed performance...6.2 wasn't the optimal just the easiest to accomplish within the given time frame. If anyone is interested in the 4.8 story. ..Web search.. ls or bust...magazine article.. took a freshend used junk yard engine that they thought was a 5.3 and turned the screws to it ..keeping within basic hi performance principals turned a turbo charged 4.8 into a 1200 hp basically mild motor with no failure...GM science at is best...good read ..GMPP and the top brass should have read that issue furthermore I think the V/E was at 130 to 140 % .. not bad for a performance based trial ... all they wanted to see was what I would take to blow it up.. crazy huh
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