[URBAN LEGEND]

Originally Posted by gtfoxy

Those bubble mobiles are butt-ugly.

My FiL has said many times “Who cares if a dump truck runs 9’s, it’s still a dump truck”.

Fixed vs growth mindset...

[ZX-10R]

Originally Posted by Bob54

My neighbor just bought a new Tesla Y...he is quite a bit faster than I am 0 to 60.

Ok - and how many full juice 1/4 mile runs can he make before his batteries are 1/2 discharged?

I'll tell you right now - not many

Also they don't hold the advantage at higher speeds

[SFV1LE]

Originally Posted by 2018ZL1

I dont believe a word of anything I read on a NBC website... sorry...

Agree, lets wait for OAN or Newsmax to confirm before we get worried

[Gunkk]

Originally Posted by Checkmate1

My biggest issue with this is that North America does not have a utility/grid system that can handle massive consumption by electric cars. We are are way behind!

Ever try evacuating Florida in a hurricane with 6 million other people bumper to bumper on the highway? I have, a few times. Getting gas is hard enough even with gasbuddy help. Not fun.

But now we're all 100% battery electric. And we'll be waiting behind 1000 other BEVs fighting for 10 charging ports for what... 50-100 hours? The hurricane will blow over and be 3 days ahead of you before you get done waiting in line.

Have fun with that, kids!


https://www.businessinsider.com/holi...argers-2019-12


Now all that said, a long range hybrid or a Volt-like range extender is fine by me. A prius does 500 miles with just its 10 gal tank. Add two 5-gal jerry cans and you can get 1000 miles out of that thing, which can get you from FL to OH or PA or West TX or wherever.

[UnknownJinX]

Originally Posted by RealG

Performance will sell electric cars to non electric people. If electric muscle cars are smoking gas burning muscle cars stoplight to stoplight people will just gravitate to the faster vehicle. That’s why the Challenger is so popular just because of the horsepower.

I never really understood that. Unless you just love having to pay for expensive tickets and worse, getting your car towed and have it sitting in the impound lot with the blazing sun hanging above and bird shit all over the car, it's just pointless to do a street race.

For a daily, enough is enough. You will accelerate as fast as that Mitsubishi Mirage is accelerating in front of you in the city. Realistically, you need good tires, good road conditions, and many other parameters to replicate the claimed acceleration times. If you are a drag strip frequent, then sure, go for the stupid fast EV, but otherwise, I don't understand the appeal. To me, it's about the sound, the feel, and the control and fun you get with a manual trans ICE car, which, yep, is slower than the automatic counterparts, but IDGASF about that. I want the car to be fun.

For most people, it's really just bragging rights.

[willzilla]

https://youtu.be/ilZ_fb75j_8

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[genxer]

Originally Posted by SFV1LE

Agree, lets wait for OAN or Newsmax to confirm before we get worried

At Newsmax, Epstein buddy Alan Dershowitz, and Karl "We're an empire now... we create our own reality" Rove, they aren't the good guys either. They'll try acting like it, but it'll be a con job.

[puppykat33]

well gents its not the performance aspect most have a problem with. The ISSUE MOST people have a problem with is the gov mandating this EV crap on the premis that it is better for the environment which if you have done any real research into lithium you would know it is in fact NOT better. It takes massive amounts of energy to properly dispose of, and it and puts off toxic gases that are worse for the environment than the emission put out by car engines. The reason you don't hear about it is that no one is effectively disposing of these lithium battery's yet, they are just piling up... I think china has some 5 million tons per yer produced and just sitting around because they cant dispose of it properly. Not to mention the lithium mines are horrific.. so this is the problem, when the government say its better and low information masses of people just buy what they are selling without actually looking into it.


The problem with agendas pushed like this is the people pushing them rarely ever consider the 2nd 3rd 4th order long term consequences of them. So lets take California's no gas engines by 2025/2035 and play a game. 1st order effect= all gas engine producers/manufactures in the state will half to close or convert resulting a loss of jobs, Gas engine aftermarket parts industries again loss of jobs. 2nd = gas stations will now half to convert to charging stations/gas stations in turn the price goes up of they simply close because they cant afford to keep up again loss of jobs. 3rd=price/cost for truckers delivering goods to the state will go up due to increased fuel cost in the state so now the price of everything goes up. 4th California already has an unstable power grid which cannot keep up with current demand at times so where are they going to find all the extra power so ppl can charge their cars at night? 5th since we have established the 1000% increase in demand for power where will it come from? are they going to build a nuclear plant? Hydro? ??? All horrible for the enviroment.. ALL of which defeat the clean green power initiate which they are trying to accomplish. not to mention how toxic lithium production/disposal is
Wake up people and research for your self.

I could go into who holds controlling interest in lithium ie stock holders from mining to charging stations and i bet you will find a lot of senators with stock holdings in these markets but this sounds like conspiracy theory and i like to just stick with FACTS
FACT= EV is not better for the environment..

FACT= since most of the us power comes from fossil fuels you are actually putting off more pollution charging your car than if you had a regular engine. Dont believe me? go look it up.


Speculation=But i bet this EV push it is better for someones wallet..

[ZED SLED]

[Smokin19]

Originally Posted by Checkmate1

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/28/gene...s-by-2035.html

From where I am sitting, our cars have suddenly become buy and hold propositions.

My biggest issue with this is that North America does not have a utility/grid system that can handle massive consumption by electric cars. We are are way behind!

Having spent over 30 years in the electric power business, I can tell you the grid is WAY worse than you can even imagine. Between generation and distribution, it will take TRILLIONS to update the grid and many, many years.

[TheRealJA105]

Originally Posted by Vigilante375

Tesla just released the Model S plaid+. $140k, under 9 sec 1/4 mile, 520+ range, under 2 second 0 to 60.....200 mph top speed.

Hell, it can go 1min 30sec around Laguna Seca.

Im all for electric vehicles but companies need to do it right and not do it because Tesla is making them.

How many times has Tesla announced something great and it hasn't even shown up yet? Then when it does get produced there are massive problems and they under perform. I haven't seen any roadsters or cybertrucks yet, how long ago were those announced?

Originally Posted by UnknownJinX

I never really understood that. Unless you just love having to pay for expensive tickets and worse, getting your car towed and have it sitting in the impound lot with the blazing sun hanging above and bird shit all over the car, it's just pointless to do a street race.

For a daily, enough is enough. You will accelerate as fast as that Mitsubishi Mirage is accelerating in front of you in the city. Realistically, you need good tires, good road conditions, and many other parameters to replicate the claimed acceleration times. If you are a drag strip frequent, then sure, go for the stupid fast EV, but otherwise, I don't understand the appeal. To me, it's about the sound, the feel, and the control and fun you get with a manual trans ICE car, which, yep, is slower than the automatic counterparts, but IDGASF about that. I want the car to be fun.

For most people, it's really just bragging rights.

So you bought your Camaro to slowly shift your own gears? Great reasoning

[ZRacerLE]

Originally Posted by ZED SLED

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Keep them coming ZED!! Haha!!!