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Old 07-25-2020, 01:06 PM   #169
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If I had to guess, and this is only a guess, I would say it's probably a liability thing. Not much damage you can do to your car or a person rolling the windows down, but god forbid someone gets their fingers caught in the window as it is closing.
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The windows are auto reversing. Put even a little pressure on it as it rolls up and it will immediately reverse all the way down.
The manufacturers like to claim it's a safety thing, but the reality is that, as @Petrol Head has mentioned, there is already a safety feature in place to prevent issues.
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Old 07-25-2020, 03:37 PM   #170
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I think this became a federal safety standard after someone’s kid was killed when the kid triggered the window up control while sticking her head out the window.
That sounds right. Something similar also forced a regulated code for the design of the window switches themselves.

Today all cars must have the same design of pull for up/push for down. Not that long ago each mfg could have their own power window switch design, and the ones like Ford used to have which were an oval rocker switch you pushed for either direction also resulted in injuries or deaths with people inadvertently pushing the “up” side while a part of their body was out the window.

Modern window motors are a lot smaller, lighter weight, and use less current too.

If you ever took a door panel of cars off from the early 2000s or older, you’d see how big and heavy the power window motors (and door lock solenoids) were. They were pretty big and heavy and pulled a lot of current. If you rolled your windows up just on accessory mode without the engine running you’d see your dashboard lights dim out as the window rolled up. Those things could cut tree branches.
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Old 07-25-2020, 03:53 PM   #171
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The manufacturers like to claim it's a safety thing, but the reality is that, as @Petrol Head has mentioned, there is already a safety feature in place to prevent issues.
Yes the windows are now in a double floating track. Pressure on the glass while it’s going up forces the main track to compress into the floating track that the window is attached to. There’s micro switches inside that floating track that when pressed will override the window switch UP demand from the user and reverse the motor.

That’s another reason power windows have to go through the ECM now.
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Old 07-31-2020, 02:17 AM   #172
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Disappointed to see no Magneride for the V6 model. Since GM invented it you would think they would use it to their strategic advantage, but nope. It wasn’t even available on the ATS except for the premium RWD model, which made no sense since AWD is common in the snow belt where roads are worse due to the winters.

If Ford can offer Magneride on the EcoBoost Mustang when they have to pay licensing fees then it should be easy for GM to offer it across the Camaro line.
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Disappointed to see no Magneride for the V6 model. Since GM invented it you would think they would use it to their strategic advantage, but nope. It wasn’t even available on the ATS except for the premium RWD model, which made no sense since AWD is common in the snow belt where roads are worse due to the winters.

If Ford can offer Magneride on the EcoBoost Mustang when they have to pay licensing fees then it should be easy for GM to offer it across the Camaro line.
Specific features being used to draw consumers to specific vehicles or trim levels isn't uncommon. Just look at MagRide's use on the Sierra, on the Denali trim only, while not being available on any trim level of the Silverado. Similar with other "sister vehicles" between the two brands.

The fact that it's available on ANY trim level of a Chevy-badged vehicle is surprising to me.
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