Internal pcv catch can valve

Thandel · 09-23-2018, 12:57 PM

Welp I just put everything together.. need to wait 72 hours for everything to cure. Then I can test. I bought eBay cans with the intention of modifying them with my own baffle system I’m not a fan of any can on the market so I figure I can fav the inside of these to work how I want avoid splash up and all that.
Current issue is the engine cover will not go back on. It fit prior to the new valve but I cannot route a tight enough bend so I’ll have to trim it which is the least of my concerns at the moment.

turbojeep95 · 09-23-2018, 01:12 PM

Wow! Like what you did with the pcv tap. I have the mishi set up with the plastic tap. Any other details on how you made yours?

Thandel · 09-23-2018, 01:20 PM

All aluminum round bar stock and a lathe. Basically tube runs into the internal valve straight through..routed to the can.. out can into the side of the valve whis open to the valve cover.

geoffchad · 09-24-2018, 08:32 AM

Dude when you said you were going to machine something, this is WAY beyond what I think a lot of people were expecting. Hard line tubing, fittings everywhere. Nice job man, that's an insane amount of time into the project.

I'm curious how it does with the triple setup, and with hard lines most people can probably follow along your routing to see which path everything takes. Also hopefully no vacuum leaks. lol.

Jason@JacFab · 09-24-2018, 01:29 PM

Wow, just wow. That’s all I can say.

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Thandel · 09-24-2018, 04:49 PM

All the fittings are sealed with high temp sealant. I have been running without the internal for a while no leaks so as long as the internal pcv adaptor is good I’m good. Once I test it and it’s good I’ll make better baffling and polish everything. That won’t be fun.

Thanks for the compliments all!

Thandel · 09-24-2018, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by geoffchad

Dude when you said you were going to machine something, this is WAY beyond what I think a lot of people were expecting. Hard line tubing, fittings everywhere. Nice job man, that's an insane amount of time into the project.

I'm curious how it does with the triple setup, and with hard lines most people can probably follow along your routing to see which path everything takes. Also hopefully no vacuum leaks. lol.

I can give detailed on How the lines run in basic format I have a basic ms paint somewhere for it.

Chef-j · 09-24-2018, 05:54 PM

This looks so confused. Why do you choose to use three cans? Also is there reason you choose aluminum line?

Thandel · 09-24-2018, 06:28 PM

I’ve never routed hardline before so I apologize that you are not happy with my routing, but I did it myself and proud. I took on a project that I have never attempted before and damn proud I did it.
3 cans is so all three parts of the pcv system dirty side are collected and fed back to the motor clean. No worry of clogging check valves, no issue of clogging the vacuum pump.
Stainless would have been a pain to work with, heavy, offered 0 benefit to this type of system and double the price.. aluminum is light easy to polish easy to keep clean and honestly much easier to bend and route.

Chef-j · 09-24-2018, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thandel

I’ve never routed hardline before so I apologize that you are not happy with my routing, but I did it myself and proud. I took on a project that I have never attempted before and damn proud I did it.
3 cans is so all three parts of the pcv system dirty side are collected and fed back to the motor clean. No worry of clogging check valves, no issue of clogging the vacuum pump.
Stainless would have been a pain to work with, heavy, offered 0 benefit to this type of system and double the price.. aluminum is light easy to polish easy to keep clean and honestly much easier to bend and route.

No No No need to apologize. Well im proud of you, i was just wondering if there was any tech reason you choose to go many cans. Im always like to learn.

Thandel · 09-24-2018, 07:52 PM

Really I chose 3 cans because because I didn’t want to cap off any of the factory system I figured they made it a certain way for a reason.. some engineers that know a lot more than me.
The aftermarket kits just did not seem worth the money or routed things ways they shouldn’t be routed through vacuum pumps. The big thing was the internal pcv valve and how to catch it.. I saw the mishi valve but cheap plastic, the cans are small the baffling is trash way to many ways for splash up to occur then you are back to filling the intake system with oil. It’s just not worth the money.

Adb1lt · 09-26-2018, 07:05 AM

I need that piece ahaha

cooper1965 · 09-26-2018, 08:33 PM

I hate the LTG pcv system in its entirety. I hope too avoid most shortcomings with a specific fuel, oil, and maintenance routine.

But, regardless of the pcv system,..
I think you've done something better here!!

Somehow......

You legit, made the LTG engine bay look better

Thandel · 09-27-2018, 05:15 AM

Much appreciated. I do like the way it looks I actually took tomorrow off work so either I’m going to the Englishtown swap meet to look for some used parts I can salvage or if it is raining.. polish time begins.

Hopefully I’ll be able to take it out for a drive tonight to test it out. I do know the 2 cans on the outside are catching though minimal due to no baffling so just want to make sure nothing crazy pops up with the internal.. then baffle and show that..

09-23-2018, 12:57 PM	#1
Thandel ATS 2.0T Drives: 2013 Cadillac ATS Join Date: May 2018 Location: Northern New Jersey Posts: 97 View My Garage	Internal pcv catch can valve Welp I just put everything together.. need to wait 72 hours for everything to cure. Then I can test. I bought eBay cans with the intention of modifying them with my own baffle system I’m not a fan of any can on the market so I figure I can fav the inside of these to work how I want avoid splash up and all that. Current issue is the engine cover will not go back on. It fit prior to the new valve but I cannot route a tight enough bend so I’ll have to trim it which is the least of my concerns at the moment. Attached Images

09-24-2018, 05:54 PM	#8
Chef-j Drives: 2018 Camaro 1SS Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: DFW Posts: 422	This looks so confused. Why do you choose to use three cans? Also is there reason you choose aluminum line? __________________ 2018 1SS 6MT: SOLD

09-24-2018, 07:52 PM	#11
Thandel ATS 2.0T Drives: 2013 Cadillac ATS Join Date: May 2018 Location: Northern New Jersey Posts: 97 View My Garage	Really I chose 3 cans because because I didn’t want to cap off any of the factory system I figured they made it a certain way for a reason.. some engineers that know a lot more than me. The aftermarket kits just did not seem worth the money or routed things ways they shouldn’t be routed through vacuum pumps. The big thing was the internal pcv valve and how to catch it.. I saw the mishi valve but cheap plastic, the cans are small the baffling is trash way to many ways for splash up to occur then you are back to filling the intake system with oil. It’s just not worth the money. Last edited by Thandel; 09-24-2018 at 07:53 PM. Reason: Spelling

09-26-2018, 08:33 PM	#13
cooper1965 Coopers Camaro Drives: 18 Flex Fuel LTG Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: St. Louis/Sullivan/Washington MO Posts: 933	I hate the LTG pcv system in its entirety. I hope too avoid most shortcomings with a specific fuel, oil, and maintenance routine. But, regardless of the pcv system,.. I think you've done something better here!! Somehow...... You legit, made the LTG engine bay look better Attached Images __________________ Flex Fuel tuned by me using HPT-:- ---My Build Thread--- -----My IG PAGe-----

09-23-2018, 01:12 PM	#2
turbojeep95 Drives: 17 Camaro lt, 22 Camaro LT1 Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Beaver, PA Posts: 411 View My Garage	Wow! Like what you did with the pcv tap. I have the mishi set up with the plastic tap. Any other details on how you made yours?

09-23-2018, 01:20 PM	#3
Thandel ATS 2.0T Drives: 2013 Cadillac ATS Join Date: May 2018 Location: Northern New Jersey Posts: 97 View My Garage	All aluminum round bar stock and a lathe. Basically tube runs into the internal valve straight through..routed to the can.. out can into the side of the valve whis open to the valve cover.

09-24-2018, 08:32 AM	#4
geoffchad Drives: 2013 ATS M6, 95 Z28 Conv M6 turbo Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 72	Dude when you said you were going to machine something, this is WAY beyond what I think a lot of people were expecting. Hard line tubing, fittings everywhere. Nice job man, that's an insane amount of time into the project. I'm curious how it does with the triple setup, and with hard lines most people can probably follow along your routing to see which path everything takes. Also hopefully no vacuum leaks. lol.

09-24-2018, 01:29 PM	#5
Jason@JacFab Drives: 2016 1LT RS Camaro; 72 Chevelle Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Central Point, OR Posts: 5,688 View My Garage	Wow, just wow. That’s all I can say. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

09-24-2018, 04:49 PM	#6
Thandel ATS 2.0T Drives: 2013 Cadillac ATS Join Date: May 2018 Location: Northern New Jersey Posts: 97 View My Garage	All the fittings are sealed with high temp sealant. I have been running without the internal for a while no leaks so as long as the internal pcv adaptor is good I’m good. Once I test it and it’s good I’ll make better baffling and polish everything. That won’t be fun. Thanks for the compliments all!

09-24-2018, 06:28 PM	#9
Thandel ATS 2.0T Drives: 2013 Cadillac ATS Join Date: May 2018 Location: Northern New Jersey Posts: 97 View My Garage	I’ve never routed hardline before so I apologize that you are not happy with my routing, but I did it myself and proud. I took on a project that I have never attempted before and damn proud I did it. 3 cans is so all three parts of the pcv system dirty side are collected and fed back to the motor clean. No worry of clogging check valves, no issue of clogging the vacuum pump. Stainless would have been a pain to work with, heavy, offered 0 benefit to this type of system and double the price.. aluminum is light easy to polish easy to keep clean and honestly much easier to bend and route.

09-26-2018, 07:05 AM	#12
Adb1lt Drives: Black 2017 2.0 Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 6	I need that piece ahaha

09-27-2018, 05:15 AM	#14
Thandel ATS 2.0T Drives: 2013 Cadillac ATS Join Date: May 2018 Location: Northern New Jersey Posts: 97 View My Garage	Much appreciated. I do like the way it looks I actually took tomorrow off work so either I’m going to the Englishtown swap meet to look for some used parts I can salvage or if it is raining.. polish time begins. Hopefully I’ll be able to take it out for a drive tonight to test it out. I do know the 2 cans on the outside are catching though minimal due to no baffling so just want to make sure nothing crazy pops up with the internal.. then baffle and show that..

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