Escalade blower

Booher · 10-25-2023, 01:08 PM

Hey guys, I just watched a video on the new escalade and it got me wondering. Would the supercharger fit on the zl1 lt4? Probably not enough clearance? Would it even be worth it? It's similar to the zr1 lt5 supercharger minus the direct porting.

https://youtu.be/H_WiSCedapw?si=W_ZRggB0eUALYgtf

DevilsReject97 · 10-25-2023, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Booher

Hey guys, I just watched a video on the new escalade and it got me wondering. Would the supercharger fit on the zl1 lt4? Probably not enough clearance? Would it even be worth it? It's similar to the zr1 lt5 supercharger minus the direct porting.

https://youtu.be/H_WiSCedapw?si=W_ZRggB0eUALYgtf

It's an LT4 engine in the V, so it will fit. However, the blower is almost the same as what's on the LT5, minus port injection.

Honestly, it should fit under the hood, but it's gonna be tight no matter what...

arpad_m · 10-25-2023, 01:21 PM

Isn't the Maggie 2650 good enough, with a ton of Camaro specific testing and all kinks worked out long ago? The Escalade blower doesn't add anything crucial to the mix, or does it?

DevilsReject97 · 10-25-2023, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by arpad_m

Isn't the Maggie 2650 good enough, with a ton of Camaro specific testing and all kinks worked out long ago? The Escalade blower doesn't add anything crucial to the mix, or does it?

I personally don't really see the need to swap blowers at all, even though our ZL1 blower is on the smaller size. Anything under 800-850hp is doable all day without swapping the blower...

*radz28* · 10-25-2023, 02:17 PM

I bet neither LT5-style blower will fit under a stock ZL1 hood. I doubt it would fit under and SS hood...

DevilsReject97 · 10-25-2023, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by radz28

I bet neither LT5-style blower will fit under a stock ZL1 hood. I doubt it would fit under and SS hood...

It doesn't according to Crawford Racing, so there is that... just was reading it on their site.

LT4Greg · 10-25-2023, 07:37 PM

Keep the stock LT4 blower or go with the Magnacharger!

Booher · 10-25-2023, 08:33 PM

I was just curious is all. I would think it would have a higher ceiling than ours, and might be a cheaper route. Ahh well, thanks for the insight.

Z OH 6 · 10-26-2023, 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by arpad_m

Isn't the Maggie 2650 good enough, with a ton of Camaro specific testing and all kinks worked out long ago? The Escalade blower doesn't add anything crucial to the mix, or does it?

Exactly. Not worth the time or effort to try to make the Caddy blower fit. The Maggie is going to be superior anyway.

*radz28* · 10-26-2023, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Z OH 6

Exactly. Not worth the time or effort to try to make the Caddy blower fit. The Maggie is going to be superior anyway.

Don't you have an X-Port 1.7? Those are really good, too, for milder builds, no? If that was an option for when I bought my 2650, I may have went that way. There's no arguing the cooling aspect between the two, but if you're shooting for under 800-WHP, isn't that still a good range for the 1740? I know there are, extreme, 1000-WHP builds with 1.7s now, but those aren't street friendly builds, if I understand correctly.

Z OH 6 · 10-26-2023, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by radz28

Don't you have an X-Port 1.7? Those are really good, too, for milder builds, no? If that was an option for when I bought my 2650, I may have went that way. There's no arguing the cooling aspect between the two, but if you're shooting for under 800-WHP, isn't that still a good range for the 1740? I know there are, extreme, 1000-WHP builds with 1.7s now, but those aren't street friendly builds, if I understand correctly.

No, I have a standard port Kong. You can achieve around 1000whp on a Kong X-Port. 800whp on an OEM 1.7L ported blower is easy peasy.

Katech_Mike · 10-26-2023, 08:54 AM

You cannot control the electronic bypass valve with the OEM ECU. That's the biggest roadblock to the LT4.5/LT5 supercharger swaps.

*radz28* · 10-26-2023, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Z OH 6

No, I have a standard port Kong. You can achieve around 1000whp on a Kong X-Port. 800whp on an OEM 1.7L ported blower is easy peasy.

You're at like 700, aren't you?

Booher · 10-26-2023, 10:01 AM

I figured that swap would be too easy, thanks Mike! I can't afford anything right now, just stuck at home with covid, so plenty of time to think about stuff hah.

10-25-2023, 01:08 PM	#1
Booher Drives: 2019 zl1 6 speed Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Lake Havasu Arizona Posts: 980	Escalade blower Hey guys, I just watched a video on the new escalade and it got me wondering. Would the supercharger fit on the zl1 lt4? Probably not enough clearance? Would it even be worth it? It's similar to the zr1 lt5 supercharger minus the direct porting. https://youtu.be/H_WiSCedapw?si=W_ZRggB0eUALYgtf

10-25-2023, 01:21 PM	#3
arpad_m Drives: 2018 Camaro 2SS A8 Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: East Tennessee Posts: 11,625 View My Garage	Isn't the Maggie 2650 good enough, with a ton of Camaro specific testing and all kinks worked out long ago? The Escalade blower doesn't add anything crucial to the mix, or does it? __________________ 2018 Camaro 2SS — G7E MX0 NPP F55 IO6 735 rwhp \| 665 rwtq Magnuson TVS 2300 80mm pulley \| Kooks 1 7/8" LT headers \| JRE smooth idle terminator cam \| LT4 FS & injectors \| TSP forged pistons & rods JMS PowerMAX \| DSX flex fuel kit \| Roto-Fab CAI \| Soler 95mm LT5 TB \| 1LE wheels \| 1LE brakes \| BMR rear cradle lockout \| JRE custom tune 1100 - 1/30/18 \| 2000 - 1/31/18 3000 - 2/06/18 TPW 2/26/18 3400 - 2/19/18 \| 3800 - 2/26/18 4300 - 2/27/18 \| 4B00 - 3/01/18 4200 - 3/05/18 \| 4800 - 3/14/18 5000 - 3/16/18 \| 6000 - 3/19/18

10-25-2023, 02:17 PM	#5
radz28 Petro-sexual Drives: Ultra-Grin Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Crazy Coast Posts: 15,201 View My Garage	I bet neither LT5-style blower will fit under a stock ZL1 hood. I doubt it would fit under and SS hood... __________________ '20 ZL1 Black "Fury" A10, PDR, Exposed CF Extractor Magnuson Magnum DI TVS2650R // RFBG // Soler 103 // TooHighPSI Port Injection // THPSI Billet Lid // FF // Katech Drop-In // PLM Heat Exchanger // ZLE Cradle bushings // BMR Chassis-Suspension Stuff // aFe Bars // Diode Dynamics LEDs // ACS Composites Guards // CF Dash // Aeroforce // tint // other stuffs

10-25-2023, 07:37 PM	#7
LT4Greg Drives: 2017 Camaro ZL1 Coupe Join Date: May 2016 Location: Georgia Posts: 5,813	Keep the stock LT4 blower or go with the Magnacharger! __________________ ZL1 Coupe, PDR, Exposed carbon fiber hood insert, My Link with Nav, M6 6 speed and Silver Ice Metallic. Mods done: ceramic window tint, GM Accessories Camaro floor mats and Roto-Fab CAI. Last edited by LT4Greg; 10-25-2023 at 08:16 PM.

10-25-2023, 08:33 PM	#8
Booher Drives: 2019 zl1 6 speed Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Lake Havasu Arizona Posts: 980	I was just curious is all. I would think it would have a higher ceiling than ours, and might be a cheaper route. Ahh well, thanks for the insight.

10-26-2023, 08:54 AM	#12
Katech_Mike Drives: 2015 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: Clinton Twp, Michigan Posts: 249	You cannot control the electronic bypass valve with the OEM ECU. That's the biggest roadblock to the LT4.5/LT5 supercharger swaps.

10-26-2023, 10:01 AM	#14
Booher Drives: 2019 zl1 6 speed Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Lake Havasu Arizona Posts: 980	I figured that swap would be too easy, thanks Mike! I can't afford anything right now, just stuck at home with covid, so plenty of time to think about stuff hah.

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