[shaffe]

Originally Posted by 17CamaroZL1

I knew where the ZL1 name came from and my argument is still sound. The original ZL1 engine was NA.

Yeah, I really don't care what they call the car as long as it has the LT5 and most of the same creature comforts of the current ZL1. The Z28s prior to the 5th gen had the option to add power windows, leather, etc., so you could have a stripped down car up to a fully loaded one if you wanted. I think they should do that again. The 5th gen Z28 probably would've sold much better if people could've optioned them up. Of course the high price tag didn't do that car any favors either though.

I agree. The ZL1 should've had the LT5 from the start or at least a similar setup with a larger supercharger than the LT4.


I remember reading about that somewhere. I don't know the whole history of the 1LE, but Al and his team said the current 1LE was only available in a manual because historically, it has always been a manual. I may not have worded that exactly right, but that's how they came across when answering the question as to why they aren't offering the A10 in the 1LE.

True the original ZL1 engine was NA but it's not like there was many factory supercharged engines available back in 69. The ZL-1 in 69 had the most powerful engine you could get IIRC, almost the same for the 5th gen ZL-1. The LSA was the most powerful engine they could get. (Because they wanted to keep the LS9 a corvette exclusive)

[joelster]

Originally Posted by lt4camaro

The 5th gen Z28 didn't sell well because it was much to expensive and was built for road course purpose which doesn't attract the masses . If the car stuck to its roots of all the early Z28's which was a car that handled well (wasn't a cushy ride) can be enjoyed on the street, drag strip and everything else 99 % of us use a car for and affordable it would have sold very well.

It attracted the masses by its bad-ass looks not just from its performance. It's just that the $75k sticker price scared everyone away. Chevy over estimated the market for the amount of people dedicated enough to fork over that kind of money. Talk to anyone that bought one brand new and none of them will have any regrets. It's such a fantastic car.

It rides surprisingly well on the street too. Better than the 1LE IMO (I owned one for 4 years). I've owned IROC's and Z28 3rd and 4th gens, and those cars would wander all over the road and rattle and bounce off of every bump. The new Z rides fantastic compared to them.

[SecondZ28]

Originally Posted by shaffe

The LSA was the most powerful engine they could get. (Because they wanted to keep the LS9 a corvette exclusive)

It was because of price.

If they dropped the LS9 in, it would've added ~$10k to the sticker pushing it over $60k.

[Blackdevil77]

Originally Posted by SecondZ28

It was because of price.

If they dropped the LS9 in, it would've added ~$10k to the sticker pushing it over $60k.

Dodge did it with the RedEye which comes with the Demon Engine. The "RedEye" package adds $11k bringing the base price up to nearly 70k. Let's see how the public responds.

[LateBrakeU2]

Hmmm...
https://www.motor1.com/news/261838/m...orvette-spied/

[Iroc_Z28]

wow that looks amazing, engine sounds like the old Cadillac LMP1 racecars with the northstar v8

[Gunkk]

Aero test bed car... and it looks sharp. I'm glad they didn't go all Testarossa on it.

[Bhobbs]

It’s not a test car, it’s the C8.R.

[kttxz06]

If the C8 looks anything like that, it will be in my garage no doubt.

[Quinten_33]

Originally Posted by kttxz06

If the C8 looks anything like that, it will be in my garage no doubt.

Rendering by FVS on CorvetteForum and overlay by someone at CorvetteBlogger. FVS’s rendering (red) uses confirmed production bumpers and headlights. This is as close as one could possibly get to the real thing without seeing it uncovered.

[FNxR3DNECK]

Originally Posted by Quinten_33

Rendering by FVS on CorvetteForum and overlay by someone at CorvetteBlogger. FVS’s rendering (red) uses confirmed production bumpers and headlights. This is as close as one could possibly get to the real thing without seeing it uncovered.

That rendering looks awesome, and I assume it's based off of those leaked pictures of some bumpers from the factory paint shop so looks pretty legit to me....

And to tie this back into the thread topic a bit I still stand my my previous claim that if there is a Gen 6 Z/28 it will get one of the engines from this new Vette! So if we get a C8 Vette reveal in January at Detroit maybe we could see a Z/28 in New York come April......

Thoughts???

[whiteboyblues2001]

Originally Posted by FNxR3DNECK

That rendering looks awesome, and I assume it's based off of those leaked pictures of some bumpers from the factory paint shop so looks pretty legit to me....

And to tie this back into the thread topic a bit I still stand my my previous claim that if there is a Gen 6 Z/28 it will get one of the engines from this new Vette! So if we get a C8 Vette reveal in January at Detroit maybe we could see a Z/28 in New York come April......

Thoughts???

So, IMHO, IF there were to be a Gen 6 Z/28, it definitely would get a Corvette engine. The question is, which one?

There are supposed to be several engine offerings with the new mid-engine C8. One is supposed to be a re-worked LT1 (let's call it an LT2) for about 500HP. Another is a N/A 5.5L FPC DOHC that will rev to 9,000 RPM for 600 HP, then there is the twin-turbo 5.5L FPC DOHC engine that is supposed to put out 800HP (and there is rumors of this engine combined with some electric motors in the front for 1,000HP).

Also, most auto manufacturers put out the mild versions first, then the more powerful versions later. So, they could put out the mid-engine vette with just the LT2 in the first year, or they could use the LT2, and the N/A 5.5.

I doubt a Gen 6 Z/28 would get the LT2, because it wouldn't be enough HP considering the GT350 has had 526 HP for the last several years. The 5.5L, maybe, but the timing is not right. GM likes to let Corvette have an engine for at least a year before letting it spill down into the Camaro. So, perhaps there will be a 2021 Z/28 with a 5.5L FPC DOHC 600 HP beast. But I'm not sure that 2021 won't be a Gen 7 Camaro. Or GM could let the mid-engine 'vette and Z/28 use the same engine beginning in the same year-2020, but I doubt it.

Then there is one more option, letting the Camaro get the LT5 from the C7 ZR1. This would allow the LT5 to be exclusive to the 'vette for a year. I'm not sure if they would still call it a Z/28, because they said in the Gen 5 Z/28, they like that name for an N/A motor.

If you told me that a Z/28 was officially confirmed, I would guess the LT5 engine. I would love to see the N/A 5.5 motor go in it, and remain N/A, but I'm not sure the timing is right.

[FNxR3DNECK]

Originally Posted by whiteboyblues2001

So, IMHO, IF there were to be a Gen 6 Z/28, it definitely would get a Corvette engine. The question is, which one?

There are supposed to be several engine offerings with the new mid-engine C8. One is supposed to be a re-worked LT1 (let's call it an LT2) for about 500HP. Another is a N/A 5.5L FPC DOHC that will rev to 9,000 RPM for 600 HP, then there is the twin-turbo 5.5L FPC DOHC engine that is supposed to put out 800HP (and there is rumors of this engine combined with some electric motors in the front for 1,000HP).

Also, most auto manufacturers put out the mild versions first, then the more powerful versions later. So, they could put out the mid-engine vette with just the LT2 in the first year, or they could use the LT2, and the N/A 5.5.

I doubt a Gen 6 Z/28 would get the LT2, because it wouldn't be enough HP considering the GT350 has had 526 HP for the last several years. The 5.5L, maybe, but the timing is not right. GM likes to let Corvette have an engine for at least a year before letting it spill down into the Camaro. So, perhaps there will be a 2021 Z/28 with a 5.5L FPC DOHC 600 HP beast. But I'm not sure that 2021 won't be a Gen 7 Camaro. Or GM could let the mid-engine 'vette and Z/28 use the same engine beginning in the same year-2020, but I doubt it.

Then there is one more option, letting the Camaro get the LT5 from the C7 ZR1. This would allow the LT5 to be exclusive to the 'vette for a year. I'm not sure if they would still call it a Z/28, because they said in the Gen 5 Z/28, they like that name for an N/A motor.

If you told me that a Z/28 was officially confirmed, I would guess the LT5 engine. I would love to see the N/A 5.5 motor go in it, and remain N/A, but I'm not sure the timing is right.

I think the N/A 5.5 (if it is real) would be perfect for a Gen 6 Z/28, but like you said then the timing becomes an issue. I'm 99% sure that the 6th gen will run through 2021 based on some documents I've seen so I think a 2021 Z/28 sharing the N/A 5.5 with the GS version of the new Mid Engine Vette? in 2021.... At around 600hp, and roughly 200ish pounds light than the ZL1 1LE with the same or more Aero and possibly better brakes (IE carbon ceramics) should put it on par with the ZL1 1LE or faster. That would be the perfect 6th gen Z/28 in my mind, unfortunately if it goes that way it will probably be out of my price range..... unless I do a lot of saving in the next couple years haha

[whiteboyblues2001]

Originally Posted by FNxR3DNECK

I think the N/A 5.5 (if it is real) would be perfect for a Gen 6 Z/28, but like you said then the timing becomes an issue. I'm 99% sure that the 6th gen will run through 2021 based on some documents I've seen so I think a 2021 Z/28 sharing the N/A 5.5 with the GS version of the new Mid Engine Vette? in 2021.... At around 600hp, and roughly 200ish pounds light than the ZL1 1LE with the same or more Aero and possibly better brakes (IE carbon ceramics) should put it on par with the ZL1 1LE or faster. That would be the perfect 6th gen Z/28 in my mind, unfortunately if it goes that way it will probably be out of my price range..... unless I do a lot of saving in the next couple years haha

If the Gen 6 goes to 2021, then the chance of a Z/28 goes up, and it could borrow the 5.5L N/A engine. And it could potentially be faster than the upcoming 2020 GT500. All speculation, but fun to think about!