12-08-2018, 11:10 AM | #85 | |
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12-08-2018, 11:16 AM | #86 | |
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Bolt is selling pretty much at expected level. It is a subcompact, so that alone limits its appeal. GM’s plan is to introduce BEVs in higher volume more popular segments. Imagine an Equinox sized BEV with 200+ mile range priced in the mid-30s. That could sell.
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12-08-2018, 11:19 AM | #87 |
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GM decided they're going to make a major move to electric's including investing a BILLION dollars and decided they wanted the BEST people working on it, thus they selected their BEST chief engineer, AL. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. |
12-08-2018, 11:24 AM | #88 |
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Mary Barra is making strength bets on electrification. She is not going to move an executive into a responsible position in EV development to punish or hide them. A few months ago GM re-structured the Product Development organization to have the person in charge of BEV (Pam Fletcher) report directly to Mary Barra instead of the head of Product Development. They also redeployed a guy who had been head of Product Planning and was instrumental in the deal to acquire Cruise Automation (Mike Abelson) into another role that includes developing and executing plans to increase infrastructure for customers buying GM BEVs, and then last week GM President, Dan Amman, was re-assigned as CEO of Cruise Automation. He and Abelson were the ones who developed the relationship with Cruise Automation that resulted in GM acquiring them. Point is, being put on the GM electrification teams is a huge vote of confidence and an opportunity to be on the cutting edge of the power center of the company.
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12-08-2018, 12:05 PM | #89 | |
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Agreed Tim! Only the best and brightest going forward. We'll miss him a bunch, but Mark Dickens will be a good Camaro guy. The future is electric! |
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12-08-2018, 12:27 PM | #90 | |
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12-08-2018, 01:03 PM | #91 | |
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12-08-2018, 04:03 PM | #92 |
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Hoping the 7th gen makes it to productio, not sure how to read moving Al to EVs, as far as the Camaro is concerned. This whole electric thing makes me laugh though, certain people act like it is some new technology. The reason EVs never took off years ago was battery capacity and the older types of batteries. Nothing really new, just improved over the years. I couldn't care less about EVs, hope ICE high HP enginez at least stick around for at least another gen or 2 for both the Camaro and Corvette.
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12-08-2018, 04:31 PM | #93 | |
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Even if Al said something like "Camaro is definitely coming out with a gen 7" it could end up being an unintentional lie. He's said things in strong absolutes before only for the higher-ups to ultimately get their way.
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12-08-2018, 08:42 PM | #94 |
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Well, sounds like the Camaro is dying again IMO. They are already dumping cars and New GM has no reverence for the past. Look at what they name Caddy's now(Lincoln is seeing the error of their ways, maybe there is hope). Meanwhile, Toyota thinks Cars have mostly bottomed out but will keep a focus on them. I think after the next crash the company with the best cars will take a huge leap in the market share.
And the biggest problem with EV's is the US doesn't have the infastructure to support them.
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12-08-2018, 08:54 PM | #95 |
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I may never buy a new car again. This whole electric thing sucks. Seriously.
I knew eventually I’d be buying a couple cars at Barrett-Jackson or Mecum but I never dreamed it would also be for my every day driver. Actually they do both have nice every day drivers go up, you just have go low mileage because I’ll never trust a car owned by someone before me. |
12-08-2018, 09:47 PM | #96 |
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There were those surveys that went out a couple months ago asking about the interest in 4 cylinder hybrid turbos and v8 hybrids. I would imagine they start out with the hybrids before they go full electric on the camaros. I don't think the v6 will be around much longer though.
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12-08-2018, 10:08 PM | #97 | |
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Thanks to you Al, for all that you have contributed to OUR Gen5/6 Camaros. All the best in your future endeavors. You will be missed.
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12-08-2018, 10:12 PM | #98 |
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