[HDRDTD]

According to sources, the new three-cylinder engine will produce over 300 hp reliably.

Not bad.

[DaveC113]

I'm cool with it if it's the Koenigsegg 3-banger...

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...pecs-analysis/

[redcoats1976]

Originally Posted by Need4Camaro

I would rather them just kill the Camaro entirely and start a new eco performance genre. Nothing wrong with that at all... ...would even be great if it were smaller than the Camaro (but had a roomier interior), were more nimble, light weight with tall gears, and had quick spirited acceleration... making 35 - 45 MPG...but please don’t call it a Camaro.

oh...kind of like my wifes 2018 honda civic coupe.need it to be faster?get the SI orthe type R if you can live with the boy racer spoiler.

[B8TTYVILLEKID]

Does this mean the new 12 cylinder I ordered from YENKO last night may not come in ?

[UnknownJinX]

Originally Posted by HDRDTD

According to sources, the new three-cylinder engine will produce over 300 hp reliably.



Not bad.

Yeah, it will be reliable up until the warranty expires.

No replacement for displacement, and this is coming from an ex-rotary owner.

[Chevelle vs Camaro]

Originally Posted by UnknownJinX

Yeah, it will be reliable up until the warranty expires.

No replacement for displacement, and this is coming from an ex-rotary owner.

Ford getting 5 more ponies and similar QM numbers out of 1.2 less liters.... and 110 HP more with one less liter in the GT500 vs ZL1..... displacement ain’t what it use to be.


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[Seniorrs]

I'll take the 2.7 turbo in my Camaro, with a manual transmission.Thank you

[LT1ornothing]

Originally Posted by Seniorrs

I'll take the 2.7 turbo in my Camaro, with a manual transmission.Thank you

It would be nice if they dropped that engine into a 6th gen camaro. That would mop the floor against a v6 camaro and embarass the ecoboost stangs. With just a tune and downpipe, it would probably scare a few stock LT1s, haha.

[Seniorrs]

Originally Posted by 1LEornothing

It would be nice if they dropped that engine into a 6th gen camaro. That would mop the floor against a v6 camaro and embarass the ecoboost stangs. With just a tune and downpipe, it would probably scare a few stock LT1s, haha.

Motor Week tested it in a caddy.It did 108 mph in standing quarter mile. Surley it would be faster in a Camaro.

[UnknownJinX]

Originally Posted by Chevelle vs Camaro

Ford getting 5 more ponies and similar QM numbers out of 1.2 less liters.... and 110 HP more with one less liter in the GT500 vs ZL1..... displacement ain’t what it use to be.

Coyote gets the power by revving higher, but low-end torque isn't as good as the LT1. That's pretty much from the difference in displacement.

Sure you can also say that Voodoo gets more power than LS7 on less displacement, but it also blows up a whole lot more.

And you are forgetting the ZR1 LT5 has similar power compared to Predator.

Originally Posted by 1LEornothing

It would be nice if they dropped that engine into a 6th gen camaro. That would mop the floor against a v6 camaro and embarass the ecoboost stangs. With just a tune and downpipe, it would probably scare a few stock LT1s, haha.

That would break the Camaro hierarchy GM has right now.

Basically, GM wants to make it easier for people and made it so that the more cylinders you have, the faster, instead of the Ford V6-Ecoboost-V8 system. V6 Mustangs are now dead so that's no longer an issue.

Maybe if GM gets rid of both V6 and 2.0T and replace them with 2.7T, that could work, although V6 is nice for people who like an NA engine on a budget. Not everyone is crazy into tuning, and I would rather not have any turbo lag over having crazy power.

[Seniorrs]

I really like the v6.I have 6k miles on mine,have been driving it fairly hard for last 2k miles and getting 25 mpg on 87.

[arpad_m]

Originally Posted by Seniorrs

I really like the v6.I have 6k miles on mine,have been driving it fairly hard for last 2k miles and getting 25 mpg on 87.

Yeah, the V6 puts out some really good fuel economy numbers, I remember my 2LT achieved 31-32 mpg with ease. Now I have to really feather the pedal and watch my speeds to get 27-28 mpg, "normal" driving means sub-20 or low 20s at best.

[UnknownJinX]

Originally Posted by arpad_m

Yeah, the V6 puts out some really good fuel economy numbers, I remember my 2LT achieved 31-32 mpg with ease. Now I have to really feather the pedal and watch my speeds to get 27-28 mpg, "normal" driving means sub-20 or low 20s at best.

I have heard the opposite.

I have heard two cases of people around me who owned V6 Camaro's and the fuel economy isn't much better than my SS, and that's in city driving where my SS would have a disadvantage. Maybe it's the way they drive them, I don't know. I drive my SS 1LE kind of hard already.

That said, V6 only needs 87 octane while V8 and 2.0T both prefer 93 octane, so there is still some fuel savings to be had there.

[LT1ornothing]

Originally Posted by UnknownJinX

I have heard the opposite.

I have heard two cases of people around me who owned V6 Camaro's and the fuel economy isn't much better than my SS, and that's in city driving where my SS would have a disadvantage. Maybe it's the way they drive them, I don't know. I drive my SS 1LE kind of hard already.

That said, V6 only needs 87 octane while V8 and 2.0T both prefer 93 octane, so there is still some fuel savings to be had there.

The v6s have to wind it up much higher in the city from light to light, whereas our v8s barely have to shift above 2,000 rpms before you find yourself pulling away from traffic 20+ mph over the speed limit. While we feather our accelerators in the city and end up speeding anyway in our v8s, the v6 guys gotta wind their engines way higher to find that itty bit of torque past 4,000rpm to pull the same. So the v6s are on the throttle way harder than the v8s and end up getting the same or worse mileage than a v8 in the city.

My 4th gen ls1 would destroy my colleagues 1st gen CTS v6 in city AND highway fuel economy. Not a direct apples to apples comparison, just trying to show an OHV V8 gm besting a 3.6 DOHC V6 gm in both city & highway mpg, both vehicles sharing similar curb weights.