07-06-2022, 03:08 PM | #169 |
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Do you expect the window on the GAHH top to hold up better than OEM?
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07-06-2022, 03:47 PM | #170 |
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I'm hoping so. Given the experiences of many others on the forum, replacing one defective top with another of identical design didn't seem the best idea. Since I'm out of warranty for the car (we get 3 years/36k miles in export markets) an oem gm part would probably have a 12 month warranty at best and the gahh warranty is stated as 5 years. In the event of delamination of the gahh one, let's see if gahh honour their warranty but hopefully I won't need to use it. As I mentioned in my post, the quality seems to be at least as good as the oem gm part, all of the fixing points were spot on and the window does appear to be bonded differently.
Experiences seem to vary in terms of which factors may have contributed to the delamination between different forum members. I never drove with the roof up and windows down, live in the UK which isn't the hottest nor driest nor most humid of climates but do park the car outside. I'll check back as to how the new top is getting on every so often to keep you all updated. As I mentioned, if anyone is attempting to DIY the swap and needs any help, feel free to get in touch. |
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07-20-2022, 02:58 PM | #172 |
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My rear window separated sooner than I thought it would. There was complete separation at the top right corner, so if I washed the car, water could get inside. I'm not quite ready to replace the top, but I didn't want to get caught off guard by rain (not likely here in Cali at this time of year). Here's my temporary fix. I used Permatex 81158 Black Silicone Adhesive Sealant to seal up the hole.
Before & After pics are attached.
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07-22-2022, 03:01 PM | #174 | |
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07-23-2022, 01:11 AM | #175 |
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The top can be removed from the frame (have a look at my previous post) so you could try removing and resealing the glass to the fabric. I considered that but didn't think I'd be able to clean the surfaces sufficiently to get a good bond so just went down the replacement route.
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08-12-2022, 03:07 PM | #176 |
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GAHH top update
So, the gahh top has been installed for only a few weeks and the glass appears to be delaminating already! Barely used the car, no driving with the windows down and top up. It's been a warm summer here in the UK (occasional days up to 37c which is about 98f) but still no excuse for it to have failed at all, let alone so quickly. Now we'll have to see how good gahh are at honouring their warranty and if they leave me out of pocket since it involves international shipping (I will definitely fight with them if they don't cover all the costs to get me a replacement since it's failed so soon). Question now is whether to replace it now before the winter with only a small amount of delamination or risk leaving it and it worsening over a rainy British winter.
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08-31-2022, 03:38 PM | #180 | |
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Step #1: Call Convertible Tops and More in Bradenton and make an appointment. Step #2: Drop your car off. Step #3: Pay on pickup and enjoy. Yes they did a perfect job on my wife's Solara, and they do all the top work for Cox Chevrolet (Corvettes and Camaros). I wouldn't try to DIY my own top, way too much skill required (i.e. advanced upholstery) that's way beyond my ability. |
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08-31-2022, 03:57 PM | #181 |
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Definitely no advanced upholstery needed, just a few bolts, clips and 2 pop rivets. When I replace the top again (maybe the over the next few weeks if my warranty claim is processed) I'll take pictures and write a guide
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09-01-2022, 04:16 AM | #182 |
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I left the following post on a thread about broken sliding panels and didn't get any comments. I'll try here:
ANYBODY KNOW ANY LAWYERS? I've never come close to suing anyone but between the posts about broken sliding panels and the ones about repeated rear window glass coming unglued, I'm thinking we convertible owners should think about it. These seem to clearly be design flaws that are affecting a significant number of owners. It seems that GM ought to own up to the issues with more that technical service bulletins that only alert to costly repairs. I don't know much about class action suits. In this case, a victory would be an extended warranty coverage, say to 10 years for the problems. Since there would be no monetary reward, a potential case would probably not be very attractive to lawyers. Maybe some consumer advocacy organization would be a better route. It just seems like GM should be flipping these bills. Does anyone have any interest or advice about organizing a complaint that might yield results? __________________
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