[Number 3]

Originally Posted by SuperSound

Think it will be a much nicer car to live in and drive, but Hellcat is definitely faster.

However, 4100lbs and 640hp equals high 11s for the mags, what would that mean for a 3700-3800lb ZL1? Definitely interesting.

When we hear the weight for an SS, we can better predict the mass. But as GM has said the SS is about 200 pounds lighter, then all we can really do is speculate that 200 pounds comes off the ZL1 also. Making 3,900 pounds or so more realistic.

Originally Posted by ChefBorOzzy

I'd say it would mean that a 3700-3800 pound ZL1 is not possible. I'd be more inclined to believe around 3,900 or a bit higher.

Same page as me.

Originally Posted by IOMike

I would think 39xx for the ZL1 with this powertrain. I bet it uses the tri-y headers too, so it will be back up to at least 650/650. Would be very weird if the SS had headers and the ZL1 had manifolds.

Also sounds like there were no heat issues. That must be a Stingray /c7 packaging thing.

Does the Z06 have tri-y headers? I thought that was the LT1 in the Camaro. I'm pretty sure the LT1 changes announced in the Camaro simply go to the Corvette for 2016. If nothing more than reducing manufacturing complexity.

Originally Posted by SuperSound

I would agree, if we do get a Z/28 car too. Otherwise making the ZL1 (or LT4 Camaro) weigh more without doing anything to cut weight down compared to the SS would be major missed opportunity. If Ford can cut 100lbs+ off the GT for the GT350R, then you would think the Camaro Team could lose most of the weight of going to the LT4. Now if we do get a Z/28, then yea save all the weight reduction for that car to keep the ZL1 price down.

Discussing this in The House now with Bhobbs.

I'm predicting 2 LT4 powered Camaros in 2017/2018. 1 a ZL1 replacement with very good street credentials and another a light weighted, CC braked track focused car to replace the Z/28. Think $$ going into light weight parts rather that the LS7. My hopeful guess would be 3,650 to 3,700 pounds with 640/650 HP.

Only a NA engine not announced or evidence of existence would change that strategy.

Originally Posted by Jeffro19

Since the ZL1 will be lighter than the caddy. The ZL1 and hellcat comparo will be very close

Should be lighter, but probably by only a 100 pounds or so.

[13vertss]

Originally Posted by SuperSound

All weights I have seen for a GT PP have been in the 3800lb range (course they were all Premiums I believe) but based on the 130lb reduction for the GT350R over the GT350...the base 350 would be the same weight if not lighter than a GT PP.

Again if we only have one Z car, I would believe Chevy would offer similar treatment as the GT350R gets.

A GT PP non premium is 3780lbs and the base GT350 is 3760lbs.

[vtirocz]

Originally Posted by Number 3

Does the Z06 have tri-y headers? I thought that was the LT1 in the Camaro. I'm pretty sure the LT1 changes announced in the Camaro simply go to the Corvette for 2016. If nothing more than reducing manufacturing complexity.

Not sure about the Z06, but the CTS-V try-y header looks almost the same as the '16 camaro. See this photo: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...iew/photos/#27

[amerhash28]

Man,640 HP is too much for me.jumping from 348 hp v6 to 640 hp V8 is too much.i will stick to the SS for now.lol

[Jeffro19]

Originally Posted by amerhash28

Man,640 HP is too much for me.jumping from 348 hp v6 to 640 hp V8 is too much.i will stick to the SS for now.lol

It's never too much

[jaymsu]

Originally Posted by Jeffro19

It's never too much

I always said that, but when I had c6 Z06 street car with 550 at the wheel for track, that was little too much. (More than my talent can manage, I should say....) - C6Z was a great car but quite snappy at the limit.

455 hp will be good enough for me for couple of years, and once the warranty is out, I'll probably mod it to be around 460-500 at the wheels.