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econ · 01-09-2021, 03:52 PM

2013 2SS, LS3, 6 speed manual

These are the lubricants I came up with.

These are correct, right?

And should I drain the old oil when the oil is hot or cold?

ADVMax · 01-09-2021, 07:02 PM

Curious about the synchromax, just put Redline D4 in my trans. It doesn’t seem to be any better or worse than it was?

I’m going to service my diff soon.

Greenhornet2 · 01-10-2021, 06:49 AM

Yes those will work. I used redline d4, it helped a little with cold shift chatter. Rear i used the GM stuff. You may still want to add a little lsd additive to the rear if needed. Warm is as l is always best, will flow out easier.

JD555 · 01-10-2021, 08:14 AM

Its been a few years since i changed mine but i though the Manual trans used ATF not syncro mesh with is heavier

econ · 01-10-2021, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by JD555

Its been a few years since i changed mine but i though the Manual trans used ATF not syncro mesh with is heavier

On the synchromax is says that it is for manual transmissions that require atf.

econ · 01-10-2021, 11:26 AM

Which brings me to my next question...

I don't fully understand the idea of a manual transmission using atf. Why doesn't it use gear oil?

TX_ED_SS · 01-10-2021, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by econ

Which brings me to my next question...

I don't fully understand the idea of a manual transmission using atf. Why doesn't it use gear oil?

The manual transmission was designed to use lighter weight ATF instead of gear oil. Using Redline D4 may help smooth out your shifts. It worked pretty well in my first LS3 Camaro.

econ · 01-10-2021, 04:40 PM

So, i drained out both diff and trans fluid.

Trans fluid looked as I would have hoped. Red and healthy looking. The proper quantity came out, so no leaks.

Diff fluid looked a little sparkly (metal in there) and there was a little build up on the magnetic tip of the drain plug. Is this normal? I am tempted to do some kind of a flush.

Fill up diff with 5w30 motor oil, spin the wheels by hand, then drain. Repeat a couple times. Good idea?

InFiD3ViL · 01-10-2021, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by econ

So, i drained out both diff and trans fluid.

Trans fluid looked as I would have hoped. Red and healthy looking. The proper quantity came out, so no leaks.

Diff fluid looked a little sparkly (metal in there) and there was a little build up on the magnetic tip of the drain plug. Is this normal? I am tempted to do some kind of a flush.

Fill up diff with 5w30 motor oil, spin the wheels by hand, then drain. Repeat a couple times. Good idea?

Yea, getting a little bit of flakes from the diff is normal. As long as you don't have chunks of anything coming out. I had the same thing on my drain plug. Flushing with motor oil? IDK, haven't heard of that and don't know how the clutch pack would tolerate it. I would just fill and send it, but that's just me.

econ · 01-10-2021, 08:52 PM

Finished up.

I bought 2 quarts of royal purple maxgear for this project. I used 1 quart to flush, 1 quart to fill. The flushed maxgear had some metal in it, so I consider it worthwhile. However, i would not continue to flush with more maxgear.

JD555 · 01-11-2021, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by econ

On the synchromax is says that it is for manual transmissions that require atf.

Nice to know. I saw a nice improvement when i changed the transmission fluid.

pnwdan · 01-28-2021, 11:27 PM

I've been running both for a while. Really love the syncromax. Smoothed out the shifts pretty good

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Bigdumogre · 01-29-2021, 05:19 AM

Like stated some metal in the rear is normal wear and good as long as there is no chunks of metal. Personally when I “flush” my rear I do the change and drive it for 500 miles then change it again. It only takes a quart and is easy to change with ramps. The only hard part is getting in the ratchet to remove the fill plug with aftermarket exhaust.

hudson773 · 01-29-2021, 08:09 AM

it might remove some debris but I doubt much as it is not a solvent.

motor oil and any other liquid including water "IS" a solvent. what it can dissolve depends on what it is made of.

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econ Drives: 2013 2ss Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: oregon Posts: 41	First differential and manual transmission service 2013 2SS, LS3, 6 speed manual These are the lubricants I came up with. These are correct, right? And should I drain the old oil when the oil is hot or cold? Attached Images

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Greenhornet2 Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS LS3 Whipple Join Date: May 2019 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,925	Yes those will work. I used redline d4, it helped a little with cold shift chatter. Rear i used the GM stuff. You may still want to add a little lsd additive to the rear if needed. Warm is as l is always best, will flow out easier. __________________ Whipple 2.9 CAI ID1050x injectors ZL1 Pump JRE FPCM JMS Voltage booster JRE Rough Idle blower cam BTR .660 springs CHE trunnion kit 1 7/8 Speed Engineering Borla Atak JRE scoop 1.5" lowering springs BMR trailing arms and toe links Cradle inserts 704WHP 603WTQ 93 octane

01-28-2021, 11:27 PM	#12
pnwdan Drives: 2014 2SS/RS Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Washington Posts: 848	I've been running both for a while. Really love the syncromax. Smoothed out the shifts pretty good Sent from my SM-N986U using Tapatalk __________________ 2014 2SS/RS LS3/M6

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Bigdumogre Drives: 2012 Camaro SS Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: New York Posts: 1,434	Like stated some metal in the rear is normal wear and good as long as there is no chunks of metal. Personally when I “flush” my rear I do the change and drive it for 500 miles then change it again. It only takes a quart and is easy to change with ramps. The only hard part is getting in the ratchet to remove the fill plug with aftermarket exhaust. __________________ 2012 Camaro 2SS/RS - CSP Custom Cam 232/240 .615/.615 113 +3, Texas speed CNC heads, FTI billet triple disc converter, K&N cai, Katech ported TB, GPI Ported/rod modded manifold, Texas speed 1 7/8 headers, HFC, Flowmaster 2 chambers with x pipe, Mishimoto CC, MSD wires, Roto fab washer relocation, tru cool 40k trans cooler, apex scoop, Pedders extreme coil overs and much more!!

01-09-2021, 07:02 PM	#2
ADVMax Sporting Foole Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Alabama Posts: 500	Curious about the synchromax, just put Redline D4 in my trans. It doesn’t seem to be any better or worse than it was? I’m going to service my diff soon.

01-10-2021, 08:14 AM	#4
JD555 Drives: 2014 2SS RS, 6 sp man Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Marlton, NJ Posts: 461	Its been a few years since i changed mine but i though the Manual trans used ATF not syncro mesh with is heavier

01-10-2021, 11:26 AM	#6
econ Drives: 2013 2ss Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: oregon Posts: 41	Which brings me to my next question... I don't fully understand the idea of a manual transmission using atf. Why doesn't it use gear oil?

01-10-2021, 04:40 PM	#8
econ Drives: 2013 2ss Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: oregon Posts: 41	So, i drained out both diff and trans fluid. Trans fluid looked as I would have hoped. Red and healthy looking. The proper quantity came out, so no leaks. Diff fluid looked a little sparkly (metal in there) and there was a little build up on the magnetic tip of the drain plug. Is this normal? I am tempted to do some kind of a flush. Fill up diff with 5w30 motor oil, spin the wheels by hand, then drain. Repeat a couple times. Good idea?

01-10-2021, 08:52 PM	#10
econ Drives: 2013 2ss Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: oregon Posts: 41	Finished up. I bought 2 quarts of royal purple maxgear for this project. I used 1 quart to flush, 1 quart to fill. The flushed maxgear had some metal in it, so I consider it worthwhile. However, i would not continue to flush with more maxgear.

01-29-2021, 08:09 AM	#14
hudson773 Account Suspended Drives: 2014 camaro SS Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: nj Posts: 268	it might remove some debris but I doubt much as it is not a solvent. motor oil and any other liquid including water "IS" a solvent. what it can dissolve depends on what it is made of.