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morepowerjoe · 11-06-2020, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by TX_ED_SS

I just looked at the Speed-Engineering website and they have their Long Tube headers in stock.
https://www.speed-engineering.com/sh...ton-pipes.html

thanks I looked and looked and couldn't find them.

morepowerjoe · 11-06-2020, 08:54 AM

do you have to run cats? I live in Texas. And if you don't do you have to run all four o2 sensors. Also do you have to get a tune done when you install long tubes?

Rafael205 · 11-06-2020, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by morepowerjoe

do you have to run cats? I live in Texas. And if you don't do you have to run all four o2 sensors. Also do you have to get a tune done when you install long tubes?

You will need a tune to turn off the rear o2 sensors. Otherwise you'll get a CEL

morepowerjoe · 11-06-2020, 01:15 PM

I was wondering how people got around that. lol that never occurred to me.

Rafael205 · 11-06-2020, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by morepowerjoe

I was wondering how people got around that. lol that never occurred to me.

Yeah... other than that, the tune will of course squeeze the most power out of the headers

morepowerjoe · 11-06-2020, 03:53 PM

thanks guys for all your info. the first thing I have to do is cut that darn crossmember out and wield in the bolt in flanges to change my oil pan gasket. wish me luck.

spyderbuddy · 11-06-2020, 05:25 PM

waste of time, like buying a V6 or Turbo 4 Camaro

Glassman66 · 11-06-2020, 05:25 PM

I ran mine without a tune for a month, and never threw a cel, but the OBX does have a second bung for the downstream O2 sensor.

Modernmusclecar · 11-06-2020, 09:08 PM

Shorties with hi flow cats give you pretty good gains. The problem is the power falls off way sooner up in the curve. The longtubes carry the power till the end of the curve. Best comparison....with shorties I lost to a fbo Mustang at the track by 1.5 cars. After longtubes and a retune we crossed the line door to door.

TX_ED_SS · 11-07-2020, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by morepowerjoe

do you have to run cats? I live in Texas. And if you don't do you have to run all four o2 sensors. Also do you have to get a tune done when you install long tubes?

Just depends on the emissions laws in Travis County. If you don't have to pass emissions for your yearly inspection then I would go with just the test/off road pipes. I would recommend a tune to get the biggest gain from the headers and to get rid of the CEL. Check the tuning section here and reach out to Dyno Steve or Janetty Racing for a SCT device and remote tuning options. You can't go wrong with either option.

*mlee* · 11-07-2020, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegas Bound

Shorties are a waste of money. Get Stainless Works and be done with it. After you get a tune of course.

^^^ This

Also best and cheapest don't go together when talking headers.

CamaroDreams76 · 11-07-2020, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mlee

^^^ This

Also best and cheapest don't go together when talking headers.

I'll agree with that. Its like building a car. You can pick two of the three.

Fast
Reliable
Cheap

TX_ED_SS · 11-07-2020, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by morepowerjoe

do you have to run cats? I live in Texas. And if you don't do you have to run all four o2 sensors. Also do you have to get a tune done when you install long tubes?

Just depends on the emissions laws in Travis County. If you don't have to pass emissions for your yearly inspection then I would go with just the test/off road pipes. I would recommend a tune to get the biggest gain from the headers and to get rid of the CEL. Check the tuning section here and reach out to Dyno Steve or Janetty Racing for a SCT device and remote tuning options. You can't go wrong with either option.

pyroguy · 11-08-2020, 06:59 PM

Don't waste your time with shorty headers. If you want cheap long tubes Speed Engineering if you don't need cats and OBX if you do. You'll likely have to do some massaging to fit with cheap headers, but if you don't mind dimpled headers you can save a bunch of money.

11-06-2020, 08:54 AM	#16
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11-06-2020, 03:53 PM	#20
morepowerjoe Drives: 2012 Chevrolet Camaro l99 Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 2,109	thanks guys for all your info. the first thing I have to do is cut that darn crossmember out and wield in the bolt in flanges to change my oil pan gasket. wish me luck. __________________ DSS FX Forged Pistons, Eagle ESP L19 Forged Rods, ARP Head and Main Studs, TSP PRC 260 CNC Ported Heads milled .030, Cometic .040 Head Gaskets, GPI SS3 VVT Camshaft, GM Performance Racing Lifters, CHE Trunnions , Molly Pushrods, Melling 10355HV Oil Pump, Cold Air Inductions CAI, Fast LSXR Intake Manifold, Nick Williams 103 TB, TSP 1 7/8" Longtubes with 3" TSP Exhaust, ZL1 Fuel Pump, Mishimoto Radiator, Mishimoto Oil Cooler, Tru Cool 40k Tranny Cooler, 3600 Circle D Converter, Fluid Dynamics Balancer Build Thread https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=609817

11-06-2020, 05:25 PM	#21
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11-06-2020, 05:25 PM	#22
Glassman66 Drives: 2014 Camaro 2SS/RS 1le Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Denver Co Posts: 260	I ran mine without a tune for a month, and never threw a cel, but the OBX does have a second bung for the downstream O2 sensor. __________________ 2014 Camaro 1LE SS/RS THE MISTRESS

11-06-2020, 09:08 PM	#23
Modernmusclecar Drives: 2011 Camaro SS Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Parts unknown Posts: 820	Shorties with hi flow cats give you pretty good gains. The problem is the power falls off way sooner up in the curve. The longtubes carry the power till the end of the curve. Best comparison....with shorties I lost to a fbo Mustang at the track by 1.5 cars. After longtubes and a retune we crossed the line door to door.

11-08-2020, 06:59 PM	#28
pyroguy Started#gottalovethatblue Drives: ABM #831 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: TN Posts: 6,919 View My Garage	Don't waste your time with shorty headers. If you want cheap long tubes Speed Engineering if you don't need cats and OBX if you do. You'll likely have to do some massaging to fit with cheap headers, but if you don't mind dimpled headers you can save a bunch of money. __________________ '10 Camaro 2SS/RS \| Aqua Blue #831 of 3,903 \| Silver Stripes Check out my build thread