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Old 10-08-2018, 11:04 AM   #1
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Opinion on alcohol free gas.. 93 and 98 grade

I understand the difference on e85,87,89 ,93 and 98 grade gas, I also understand the alcohol and alcohol free gas.. I guess i just wanted opinions on usage for daily or trip and long term use... Please expand my knowledge.. Thank you..
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Old 10-08-2018, 11:18 AM   #2
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You mean Ethanol free my friend. Here's all you need to know. Unless you have an E85 specifically tuned vehicle:

- Ethanol basically sucks, and ruins everything if left long term.
- Ethanol free gas is better, ergo more expensive.
- Daily use of Ethanol fuel is okay, but when I store for winter it will be with 100% gas.
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Old 10-08-2018, 11:30 AM   #3
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You mean Ethanol free my friend. Here's all you need to know. Unless you have an E85 specifically tuned vehicle:

- Ethanol basically sucks, and ruins everything if left long term.
- Ethanol free gas is better, ergo more expensive.
- Daily use of Ethanol fuel is okay, but when I store for winter it will be with 100% gas.
I have heard it called both so was wondering.. I have both available here, regular gas with ethanol and ethanol free. Does ethanol run cooler.. I will always pay more this car if need be. I guess the thing that is throwing me is that some times old timers are calling it alcohol free, which I figured that would make it run hotter. Reason being alcohol race cars run so much cooler... But build up moisture... ?
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Old 10-08-2018, 11:44 AM   #4
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I have heard it called both so was wondering.. I have both available here, regular gas with ethanol and ethanol free. Does ethanol run cooler.. I will always pay more this car if need be. I guess the thing that is throwing me is that some times old timers are calling it alcohol free, which I figured that would make it run hotter. Reason being alcohol race cars run so much cooler... But build up moisture... ?
Ethanol burns cleaner so it was mixed with most fuels to be epa friendly. It is also cheap as hell for them to make so they can mix it in and still charge us the same amount and make millions more. My flex fuel sensor reads about 12-13% out of pump 93.
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Old 10-08-2018, 12:32 PM   #5
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So I will digress on this question.
when storing a vehicle and putting stabil in. do you fill up say 5 gallons? or fill almost full with stabil (both instances) I normally store my car mid October till first of April.
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Old 10-08-2018, 12:42 PM   #6
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Hahhahha alcohol free
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Old 10-08-2018, 12:45 PM   #7
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Ethanol is only "cheap" due to heavy subsidy used to pay for it.


No subsidy and ethanol would... all but evaporate. Takes more energy to produce than it generates... stupid.
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Old 10-08-2018, 06:45 PM   #8
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So I will digress on this question.
when storing a vehicle and putting stabil in. do you fill up say 5 gallons? or fill almost full with stabil (both instances) I normally store my car mid October till first of April.


Read the bottle for the correct mix.

In short, you don’t chuck your fuel tank full with 18 gallons of stabil.


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I'm not storing the car... I want what will give best horsepower over long term and keep motor cool and clean...
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Old 10-08-2018, 09:36 PM   #10
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Ethanol is the proverbial shit. I hear people say it doesn’t make much of a difference on an otherwise stock car, but those people are smoking crack. Night and day difference...and the torque!

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Old 10-08-2018, 11:33 PM   #11
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Read the bottle for the correct mix.

In short, you don’t chuck your fuel tank full with 18 gallons of stabil.


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I think he meant if you add Stabil to your tank for storage, do you add it to roughly 5 gallons of gasoline in the tank (aka 1/4 tank of fuel) or to a full tank of fuel.

It is best to store a vehicle with a full tank as it lessens the amount and chances of moisture buildup in the fuel tank.
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I think he meant if you add Stabil to your tank for storage, do you add it to roughly 5 gallons of gasoline in the tank (aka 1/4 tank of fuel) or to a full tank of fuel.

It is best to store a vehicle with a full tank as it lessens the amount and chances of moisture buildup in the fuel tank.
Thanks for this, this is exactly what I meant. Sorry for the confusion.
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Old 10-09-2018, 08:46 AM   #13
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To put it as simple as possible - fuel that is 10% ethanol is like it is 10% "air". Yea, it burns but it provides less power per gallon than the same fuel that is 100% gasoline.

Where I live (Minnesota) you can buy 91 octane that is E10 and non-oxy, the non-oxy makes more power, gets more mileage and runs cooler in my car. However it is hard to find, and it is priced like race gas.

I grew up in Michigan and take a trip there once a year and in my truck the last several years I can fill up at home and drive there, I have to get gas 40-50 miles from my destination. On the way back on non-oxy fuel (easy to find in MI) and I can make it all the way home without stopping. Has happened 7 or 8 times over the years.
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Old 10-09-2018, 08:46 AM   #14
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Opinion on alcohol free gas.. 93 and 98 grade

Once again, the answer is the same. Follow the directions on the bottle that you are using.

For Stabil, yes the directions state to fill it up and then add Stabil, as directed, based on the amount of due on the tank.

Other products, that also work, have different directions.

RTFM and you’ll be fine.

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