670 RWHP, JRE 125 RWHP FLEX FUEL PACKAGE - Page 2

2018ZL1 · 05-25-2019, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by juice3

So I was watching the videos, and maybe this was already asked. If I hit a local E85 pump (Which is never E85) and it's over Say E60, am I OK with this kit?

What do you include to see the E Content? Or offer?

If you run over E60 you will start seeing the low side fuel pressure drop. With a pulley you better not go over E40! ask me how I know! I tried running E60 and my low side FP was 1700 pounds low! got a "Danger" email from Ted!!

Seen a couple guys do like E45 with a pulley and be okay on FP. Car ran a 10.33 @135MPH

HP tuners will read E content.

JANNETTYRACING · 05-26-2019, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by juice3

So I was watching the videos, and maybe this was already asked. If I hit a local E85 pump (Which is never E85) and it's over Say E60, am I OK with this kit?

What do you include to see the E Content? Or offer?

We offer the Aerorforce Gauge for monitoring E content.

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Originally Posted by regnouy37

Hi Ted,

Thank you for sharing your progress and details of this package. I thoroughly enjoy watching your thoughts and explanations.

What is next for your car? Cam, heads, ported SC, larger TB, etc? Looking forward to plans and thoughts.

You are welcome, I will likely move to a cam next, I am currently working on a cam profile that will deliver factory like Idle but about 50 more RWHP and a broad power band likely up to 7000 for 2 reasons.

First being to gain fuel system range then more air flow.

Power Through Efficiency.

I do not think I will mess with the stock blower so many have already gone that route and I believe the blower is just too small to achieve the air flow I am looking for.

I will likely move to a larger blower which one is still up in the air right now.

Power through Efficiency!

Ted.

F419sr1 · 05-26-2019, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by JANNETTYRACING

We offer the Aerorforce Gauge for monitoring E content.

You are welcome, I will likely move to a cam next, I am currently working on a cam profile that will deliver factory like Idle but about 50 more RWHP and a broad power band likely up to 7000 for 2 reasons.

First being to gain fuel system range then more air flow.

Power Through Efficiency.

I do not think I will mess with the stock blower so many have already gone that route and I believe the blower is just too small to achieve the air flow I am looking for.

I will likely move to a larger blower which one is still up in the air right now.

Power through Efficiency!

Ted.

What would your blower of choice be

JANNETTYRACING · 05-26-2019, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by F419sr1

What would your blower of choice be

Today would be whipple and magnuson I have run both on my 2016 and done lots of builds with both very hard to choose one over the other so it becomes personal preference on looks.

I am looking forward to the TVS 2650 from Magnuson.

Ted.

BradfordCamaro · 05-26-2019, 08:56 AM

What about a non E85 option? If a client does not have access to it, how would it change the numbers? 20hp less? 30hp less?

Or would you do something different for a non E85 build?

JANNETTYRACING · 05-26-2019, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by BradfordCamaro

What about a non E85 option? If a client does not have access to it, how would it change the numbers? 20hp less? 30hp less?

Or would you do something different for a non E85 build?

about 30 RWHP less on 100 octane unleaded, my car made 642 RWHP on 100 octane unleaded..

About 50 RWHP less on 93 octane, most cars are making 620 RWHP on this package.

Still with major gains in torque due to Throttle staying open, I talk about this quite often in my videos.

Ted.

wanab · 05-27-2019, 06:49 PM

Ted,

I am using 91 octane to cut my e85. How critical is the choice of fuel used to cut the e85. Am I leaving a ton on the table?

Does the octane rating of the cutting fuel show up in your timing tables or does the ethanol content allow all the timing that is needed?

KingLT1 · 05-28-2019, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by wanab

Ted,

I am using 91 octane to cut my e85. How critical is the choice of fuel used to cut the e85. Am I leaving a ton on the table?

Does the octane rating of the cutting fuel show up in your timing tables or does the ethanol content allow all the timing that is needed?

Here is a chart that explains things pretty clearly.

laynlo15 · 05-28-2019, 09:54 AM

Not sure where you found that chart but its very cool to take a look at the differences. Thanks for posting that.

2018ZL1 · 05-28-2019, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by KingLT1

Here is a chart that explains things pretty clearly.

Excellent info!!!

JANNETTYRACING · 05-28-2019, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by wanab

Ted,

I am using 91 octane to cut my e85. How critical is the choice of fuel used to cut the e85. Am I leaving a ton on the table?

Does the octane rating of the cutting fuel show up in your timing tables or does the ethanol content allow all the timing that is needed?

I can't be 100% positive but I believe E-85 is made using base 87 octane gasoline then add Ethanol to make E-85.

So if you are cutting E-85 with higher octane fuel I belive you end up with a better fuel.

Ted.

wanab · 05-28-2019, 10:51 AM

Ted and KingLT1,

Thanks for the good replies.

laynlo15 · 05-28-2019, 12:30 PM

I believe the C85 VP is cut with MS109. That's about 450.00 for 55 gals.

BradfordCamaro · 05-28-2019, 12:36 PM

Way up here. No E85 unless you buy a barrel.
Choices are straight 91 with No Ethanol (Shell) or 94 with up to 10% ethanol (Sunoco)
I would surmise both would be pretty much equal. Maybe the edge to the 94 with ethanol.
I read somewhere that ethanol could lower the octane rating by 1 or 2 points?
Would the 94 work for a 93 octane tune?

05-26-2019, 08:56 AM	#19
BradfordCamaro SABIO Drives: 2016 CAMARO 1SS Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Bradford, ON Posts: 5,012	What about a non E85 option? If a client does not have access to it, how would it change the numbers? 20hp less? 30hp less? Or would you do something different for a non E85 build? __________________

05-27-2019, 06:49 PM	#21
wanab Drives: 17 ZL1 4300 03/16/2017 Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Kansas Posts: 112	fuel used to cut the e85 Ted, I am using 91 octane to cut my e85. How critical is the choice of fuel used to cut the e85. Am I leaving a ton on the table? Does the octane rating of the cutting fuel show up in your timing tables or does the ethanol content allow all the timing that is needed? __________________ 2017 ZL1 Coupe, MBM, A10, PDR, CF Hood Insert, ZL1 matts, 50th Anv. Indoor Cover

05-28-2019, 09:54 AM	#23
laynlo15 Drives: 2022 Lt1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: clark, mo Posts: 8,860	Not sure where you found that chart but its very cool to take a look at the differences. Thanks for posting that. __________________ 2022 Lt1 6.2 A10, Maggie 2300, THPSI Port Inj/10 rib, Rotofab, E, Nickey, SCOL, Griptech, RC Bandits, Hoosiers/MT 9.80@142.96 1.44 60ft, 6.34@112 707/669 RWHP/TRQ. 16SS Maggie 2650 9.41@147 1.35 60ft, 5.99@119. 16 C7 A8 10.90@128 Bolt on stuff

05-28-2019, 10:51 AM	#26
wanab Drives: 17 ZL1 4300 03/16/2017 Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Kansas Posts: 112	Ted and KingLT1, Thanks for the good replies. __________________ 2017 ZL1 Coupe, MBM, A10, PDR, CF Hood Insert, ZL1 matts, 50th Anv. Indoor Cover

05-28-2019, 12:30 PM	#27
laynlo15 Drives: 2022 Lt1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: clark, mo Posts: 8,860	I believe the C85 VP is cut with MS109. That's about 450.00 for 55 gals. __________________ 2022 Lt1 6.2 A10, Maggie 2300, THPSI Port Inj/10 rib, Rotofab, E, Nickey, SCOL, Griptech, RC Bandits, Hoosiers/MT 9.80@142.96 1.44 60ft, 6.34@112 707/669 RWHP/TRQ. 16SS Maggie 2650 9.41@147 1.35 60ft, 5.99@119. 16 C7 A8 10.90@128 Bolt on stuff

05-28-2019, 12:36 PM	#28
BradfordCamaro SABIO Drives: 2016 CAMARO 1SS Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Bradford, ON Posts: 5,012	Way up here. No E85 unless you buy a barrel. Choices are straight 91 with No Ethanol (Shell) or 94 with up to 10% ethanol (Sunoco) I would surmise both would be pretty much equal. Maybe the edge to the 94 with ethanol. I read somewhere that ethanol could lower the octane rating by 1 or 2 points? Would the 94 work for a 93 octane tune? __________________

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