Easier install?

MSU120 · 08-07-2018, 05:56 PM

I’m familiar with the pros and cons of a PD vs a centri supercharger but I’m curious which is a simpler install for the DIY guy? I’ve had a PD blower but always had the work done professionally. I’m not sure why, but Im considering doing the install myself this time around. Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Eyefixstuff · 08-07-2018, 07:25 PM

You may get mixed opinions on this. Personally I think centri is easier though. But not sure if it’s so much easier to lean toward a centri just because of that. Can’t go wrong either way though.

parbreak · 08-07-2018, 07:31 PM

Procharger was a pretty easy install overall.

shinysun · 08-07-2018, 07:45 PM

Procharger. I installed Procharger, Maggi and Whipple.

Simpler - Procharger > Mag >= Whipple. - harder.

MSU120 · 08-08-2018, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by shinysun

Procharger. I installed Procharger, Maggi and Whipple.

Simpler - Procharger > Mag >= Whipple. - harder.

Thank you all. Now.....time to sell the wife on the idea

laynlo15 · 08-08-2018, 06:39 AM

You can install a Maggie yourself with the proper tools. A good tech can install one in about 10 hours. Probably the hardest part is removing the stock balancer/pulley. Gm made sure it wasn't coming off. There are a couple tricks like heating up the bolts to get it to break loose.

CaliSpecial · 08-08-2018, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by MSU120

Thank you all. Now.....time to sell the wife on the idea

For a minute there I thought you said time to sell the wife...!

KingLT1 · 08-08-2018, 08:47 AM

Procharger easiest for sure but don't let that stop you from going with a PD unit. Imo the Whipple or Maggie installation looks much cleaner. In the end it's only a few hours difference install time.

oldman · 08-08-2018, 09:52 AM

Out of all generations of Camaro, the 6th is now my favorite to work on. For instance the singe C-clips for all the oil lines, so easy and they always work, never leak. The no tensioner for the A/C saves money, time, drag and weight. The complete aluminum cradle comes down and even has the a/c stuff all hooked up, radiator too. I yanked out the drivers side radiator but that is another story.... The only thing to me that is a pain, is the shifter OMG.. I'd rather swap heads and headers... ain't kidding...

This is especially true since:
1) I went to BMR engine mounts, now the headers just fall out of the car.
2) I just zip tie the passenger side wire harness to the catch can instead of the silly steel tree with all the tree zip ties meaning you can move it and the wire harness is always in the way. I can pull out that side header in under 1/2 hour, no need to pull the plugs. I just did this as I did a partial wrap of the header and wrapped my starter as the OEM cooked this summer.
3) until I'm done working on the car, I left the factory aluminum brace and all aero stuff off the bottom of my car.... it makes it that much easier to do anything and I getting a forged short block soon! So why put this on? LOL. this also means it is 1/2 an hour to take the whole front clip off now... easy peasy...

parbreak · 08-08-2018, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by MSU120

Thank you all. Now.....time to sell the wife on the idea

Sometimes it's easier to ask for forgiveness than permission.

oneredry · 08-08-2018, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by parbreak

Sometimes it's easier to ask for forgiveness than permission.

I concur with this statement,
however, I am no tech but I did find it pretty good (my Maggie). I managed to take my time and did it maybe 18hours or so (or two weekends worth). And yes, the hardest part was the balancer bolt.
I'm sure they both have their quirks though.

MSU120 · 08-08-2018, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliSpecial

For a minute there I thought you said time to sell the wife...!

LOL.....she’s good to me, no complaints!

SpaceCadet · 08-08-2018, 04:37 PM

ECS/Vortech Kit. does not require crank bolt to be removed.

Eyefixstuff · 08-08-2018, 05:49 PM

I see people having trouble with the crank bolt. On my last two cars I have gotten them both off in seconds with this thing and a shallow socket from harbor freight that was like 5 bucks. First car took it right off instantly. My new car I heated it for about 15 seconds with a propane torch and then ripped it right off. It’s an awesome tool to have anyway for tight spaces. Might wanna grab one if you do your own work.

08-07-2018, 05:56 PM	#1
MSU120 Drives: 2018 1SS 1LE Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Michigan Posts: 287	Easier install? I’m familiar with the pros and cons of a PD vs a centri supercharger but I’m curious which is a simpler install for the DIY guy? I’ve had a PD blower but always had the work done professionally. I’m not sure why, but Im considering doing the install myself this time around. Any input would be greatly appreciated. __________________ 2018 SS 1LE—707rwhp, 615rwtq 2009 Pontiac G8 GT—605rwhp, SOLD

08-07-2018, 07:25 PM	#2
Eyefixstuff Drives: 16’ 2SS A8 HBM Procharged Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Boston Posts: 410	You may get mixed opinions on this. Personally I think centri is easier though. But not sure if it’s so much easier to lean toward a centri just because of that. Can’t go wrong either way though. __________________ 16' 2SS A8 Hyperblue \| P1SC-1, Race IC \| JMS fuel pump voltage booster \| Jannetty custom tune \| Elite E2-X catch can \| M017 Wheels

08-07-2018, 07:31 PM	#3
parbreak Drives: 2017 50th Camaro SS Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Maryland Posts: 525	Procharger was a pretty easy install overall. __________________ 50th Anniversary Edition \|Borla Atak and 60606 mid pipes\| Kooks 1 7/8" \| ProCharger Stage II \|305/45/17 DRs \| Circle D 3500 stall \| LT4 fueling \| Custom made Lowside Aux Pump \| Alky Control Meth \| DSX E85

08-08-2018, 06:39 AM	#6
laynlo15 Drives: 2022 Lt1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: clark, mo Posts: 8,860	You can install a Maggie yourself with the proper tools. A good tech can install one in about 10 hours. Probably the hardest part is removing the stock balancer/pulley. Gm made sure it wasn't coming off. There are a couple tricks like heating up the bolts to get it to break loose. __________________ 2022 Lt1 6.2 A10, Maggie 2300, THPSI Port Inj/10 rib, Rotofab, E, Nickey, SCOL, Griptech, RC Bandits, Hoosiers/MT 9.80@142.96 1.44 60ft, 6.34@112 707/669 RWHP/TRQ. 16SS Maggie 2650 9.41@147 1.35 60ft, 5.99@119. 16 C7 A8 10.90@128 Bolt on stuff

08-08-2018, 08:47 AM	#8
KingLT1 Drives: 2016 1SS NFG A8 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: 46804 Posts: 6,796	Procharger easiest for sure but don't let that stop you from going with a PD unit. Imo the Whipple or Maggie installation looks much cleaner. In the end it's only a few hours difference install time. __________________ 2016 NFG 1SS A8 Options-2SS Leather/NPP Perf. mods-Whipple 2.9/Fuel System/Flex Fuel/103mm TB/Rotofab Big Gulp/Cat Deletes/Corsa NPP Per. times- 10.5 @ 137 w/ 1.8 60ft Full weight on 20's 1200DA

08-07-2018, 07:45 PM	#4
shinysun Drives: 2016 Camaro SS Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Korea Posts: 417	Procharger. I installed Procharger, Maggi and Whipple. Simpler - Procharger > Mag >= Whipple. - harder.

08-08-2018, 09:52 AM	#9
oldman Drives: SS 6 speed of course Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Hilo, HI Posts: 4,316	Out of all generations of Camaro, the 6th is now my favorite to work on. For instance the singe C-clips for all the oil lines, so easy and they always work, never leak. The no tensioner for the A/C saves money, time, drag and weight. The complete aluminum cradle comes down and even has the a/c stuff all hooked up, radiator too. I yanked out the drivers side radiator but that is another story.... The only thing to me that is a pain, is the shifter OMG.. I'd rather swap heads and headers... ain't kidding... This is especially true since: 1) I went to BMR engine mounts, now the headers just fall out of the car. 2) I just zip tie the passenger side wire harness to the catch can instead of the silly steel tree with all the tree zip ties meaning you can move it and the wire harness is always in the way. I can pull out that side header in under 1/2 hour, no need to pull the plugs. I just did this as I did a partial wrap of the header and wrapped my starter as the OEM cooked this summer. 3) until I'm done working on the car, I left the factory aluminum brace and all aero stuff off the bottom of my car.... it makes it that much easier to do anything and I getting a forged short block soon! So why put this on? LOL. this also means it is 1/2 an hour to take the whole front clip off now... easy peasy... __________________ Forged short block, large duration sub .600 lift Cam Motion cam, 7200 RPM fuel cut, Pray Ported Heads, 3.85 pulley D1X, stage II intercooler, DSX secondary low side, DSX E85 sensor, Lingenfelter big bore 2.0 pump, ported front cats, 60608 Borla, LT4 injectors, ZL1 1LE driveshaft and Katech ported TB, ported MSD intake, BTR valvetrain, ARP studs, ProFlow valves, PS4 tires.

08-08-2018, 04:37 PM	#13
SpaceCadet Drives: '99 Vette, '02 SVT Focus Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Ca Posts: 23	ECS/Vortech Kit. does not require crank bolt to be removed.

08-08-2018, 05:49 PM	#14
Eyefixstuff Drives: 16’ 2SS A8 HBM Procharged Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Boston Posts: 410	I see people having trouble with the crank bolt. On my last two cars I have gotten them both off in seconds with this thing and a shallow socket from harbor freight that was like 5 bucks. First car took it right off instantly. My new car I heated it for about 15 seconds with a propane torch and then ripped it right off. It’s an awesome tool to have anyway for tight spaces. Might wanna grab one if you do your own work. Attached Images __________________ 16' 2SS A8 Hyperblue \| P1SC-1, Race IC \| JMS fuel pump voltage booster \| Jannetty custom tune \| Elite E2-X catch can \| M017 Wheels

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