[2010REDSS]

Originally Posted by kttxz06

Haha, i know. It should just say.............


If you want to haul ass..............do this.


If you want nannies to help..........do this.

There shouldn't be like 10 fkn modes. We need just fast or slower.

Lol.....totally agree. SB much more simple. One button, haul ass in a straight line. One button, quickest around a road course. Now that I've got it figured out for road course use I'm generally ok. However, too easy to bump the console switch and move into the wrong PTM mode. Nearly caused an accident on track when I thought I was in Sport 2 but bumped it again and was in Sport 1 and StabiliTrak kicked in on fast corner and the car started trying to "correct" and I started fighting it because I thought that it was my line/speed rather than it being the car. Not cool. Wish that was more definitive on/off for each mode.

[TRZ06]

Originally Posted by 2010REDSS

Lol.....totally agree. SB much more simple. One button, haul ass in a straight line. One button, quickest around a road course. Now that I've got it figured out for road course use I'm generally ok. However, too easy to bump the console switch and move into the wrong PTM mode. Nearly caused an accident on track when I thought I was in Sport 2 but bumped it again and was in Sport 1 and StabiliTrak kicked in on fast corner and the car started trying to "correct" and I started fighting it because I thought that it was my line/speed rather than it being the car. Not cool. Wish that was more definitive on/off for each mode.

I disagree. After the frustrations of dealing with too much intervention in my previous M3 and S4, even in the relaxed modes.

I welcome the multitude of options with GM's PTM. There is something in there for every driving style from mild to wild and plenty of in between.

There is nothing worse than having a fast car and having the systems kill all the fun and having the only option to be to defeat them and turn everything off and have no safety net.

[kttxz06]

Originally Posted by 2010REDSS

Lol.....totally agree. SB much more simple. One button, haul ass in a straight line. One button, quickest around a road course. Now that I've got it figured out for road course use I'm generally ok. However, too easy to bump the console switch and move into the wrong PTM mode. Nearly caused an accident on track when I thought I was in Sport 2 but bumped it again and was in Sport 1 and StabiliTrak kicked in on fast corner and the car started trying to "correct" and I started fighting it because I thought that it was my line/speed rather than it being the car. Not cool. Wish that was more definitive on/off for each mode.

So, in Sport 2, everything is off right? Sport 1, ST is still active. I'm not a road course guy, but if I was, I'd imagine after you got the hang of the car, you'd want everything off. I'm a roll race guy, i just don't want any power being pulled so. It's not like the nannies will come on as I'm not spinning so. That's why I just double tap and put it in Track mode. It tightens the feel of the wheel which i like even tho I'm just in a straight line. Makes it feel more planted. But, I can see on a road course, you'd like different modes as your skill set is adjusting.

[17CamaroZL1]

Sport 2 still has nannies, just less of them. Race has even less and gives full power according to the manual. If you want to guarantee no intervention, the only way is to hold the TC button for 7 seconds or so in any driving mode, but if you are in Sport mode, double tapping the TC button puts you in Competitive Mode, which acts like everything is off, even though some say stability control is still on. I've tried to get SC to kick on in that mode by power sliding the car to near full steering lock with smoke rolling off the tires and it never cut any power.

If you're not spinning at your power level, then I'd recommend putting it in Sport mode and simply double tapping the TC button. If you want the Track steering feel, go into the settings in the infotainment screen and unlink the steering from drive mode by simply selecting Track. Then the steering will feel the way you like it no matter what driving mode you're in. I keep my exhaust in Track and Suspension in Tour that way.

[carguy55]

Driving modes explained in detail

https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=496996

[17CamaroZL1]

Originally Posted by 2010REDSS

Track mode + PTM in Race mode = full engine power and no stabiliTrak.

Not just in the manual, that's how it really works. Unfortunately....I know this to be true given a couple of off track excursions in Race mode. It will not reduce power to save you....and there is no TC or StabiliTrak.

I was not aware that you could also get there with double tap in Tour or Sport mode as well. Never use those modes but good to know.

I'm not sure about just using Race mode, but when you activate launch control within Race mode, there is still TC and even SC I think, because if you turn the wheel slip all the way up so it allows the car to spin a bit and you get too sideways during a launch, it will completely kill the power until the car straightens up. I'll have to try Race mode without activating launch control and see if anything happens. I'm curious now.

The double tap only works in Sport mode. Competitive Mode Active will pop up on the dash and the car acts like everything is turned completely off. It will not do it in Tour and of course in Track, it brings up the PTM menu.

Another tidbit about using Sport/Competitive Mode, is that the simple, non adjustable launch control is supposed to be available. Simply stand on the brake really hard and slam the throttle to the floor the same way you activate it in Race mode. I've not tried that yet, so I have 2 things to try now.

[TRZ06]

Originally Posted by 17CamaroZL1

Sport 2 still has nannies, just less of them. Race has even less and gives full power according to the manual. If you want to guarantee no intervention, the only way is to hold the TC button for 7 seconds or so in any driving mode, but if you are in Sport mode, double tapping the TC button puts you in Competitive Mode, which acts like everything is off, even though some say stability control is still on. I've tried to get SC to kick on in that mode by power sliding the car to near full steering lock with smoke rolling off the tires and it never cut any power.

If you're not spinning at your power level, then I'd recommend putting it in Sport mode and simply double tapping the TC button. If you want the Track steering feel, go into the settings in the infotainment screen and unlink the steering from drive mode by simply selecting Track. Then the steering will feel the way you like it no matter what driving mode you're in. I keep my exhaust in Track and Suspension in Tour that way.

Comp. mode will not cut power at all. Comp. mode applies individual brakes to control understeer / oversteer only.

It is the old, original system used on the C5 Z06 Corvettes. Keep in mind though that the slower you are going when you slide , the less the system can do to counter the slide, as it is only using individual brakes to counter it and there is not a lot of momentum to correct you. The law of physics apply.

That is what is so great about the system though, very little intervening at lower speeds, yet is fully there when the speeds increase and it is more effective the faster you are going.

[17CamaroZL1]

Originally Posted by TRZ06

Comp. mode will not cut power at all. Comp. mode applies individual brakes to control understeer / oversteer only.

It is the old, original system used on the C5 Z06 Corvettes. Keep in mind though that the slower you are going when you slide , the less the system can do to counter the slide, as it is only using individual brakes to counter it and there is not a lot of momentum to correct you. The law of physics apply.

That is what is so great about the system though, very little intervening at lower speeds, yet is fully there when the speeds increase and it is more effective the faster you are going.

I did my testing at low speed, so that makes sense. It felt just like it does with everything off. Very cool! If I ever find myself on a really large open paved area sometime I might just pick up the pace and see what happens.

[creed2]

Great thread and information so apparently now I need to go drive in SPORT MODE and DOUBLE CLICK the TC BUTTON... Thanks!!

[SuperMarioZL1]

Originally Posted by creed2

Great thread and information so apparently now I need to go drive in SPORT MODE and DOUBLE CLICK the TC BUTTON... Thanks!!

I thought only 2-3 people would respond... I've learned alot, glad i asked

[Markoz28]

Originally Posted by carguy55

Driving modes explained in detail

https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=496996

Great link!
This thread overall is informative and confusing. Lol

[BMWM.D.]

Originally Posted by 17CamaroZL1

It's been so long since I've had my car in PTM, I can't remember if it cuts power from wheel spin if not using launch control, but it definitely does if you do use launch control. It will also definitely cut power if the car gets too sideways as stability control kicks in.

I tried a hard launch in PTM Race one time, and it aggressively cut power. I thought it would be smooth and allow just as much power as the tires would allow, but it more or less fell on its face. So I haven’t used it since. Maybe I’ll have to mess with it again, but it didn’t work like I was hoping it would.

[bomariam1]

Originally Posted by BMWM.D.

I tried a hard launch in PTM Race one time, and it aggressively cut power. I thought it would be smooth and allow just as much power as the tires would allow, but it more or less fell on its face. So I haven’t used it since. Maybe I’ll have to mess with it again, but it didn’t work like I was hoping it would.

You have to adjust the lunch RPM.

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[BMWM.D.]

Originally Posted by bomariam1

You have to adjust the lunch RPM.

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I wasn’t using launch control. And it wasn’t really a launch — It was more of a full throttle roll on in 1st from 5-10 mph.