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Old 01-12-2017, 01:52 PM   #29
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I bet it is a SRT 8 with AWD.

0-60 is probably comparable to 2017 zl1.

Just a guess.
The Demon is going to be over 800hp and as close as possible to the NHRA rule of 10.0 for a factory stock car. It's going to have 315 drag radials on 18s stock. Not sure about skinnys and smaller brakes, but I would guess yes so it is just a street legal drag car and will handle and stop worse than a current Hellcat.

Dodge is also making a widebody Hellcat which will just bolt on the same bushwhacker flares, but use 305/20s all around to improve the handling and traction and still get spanked by the ZL1 on the road course.

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and Metallica is just icing on that fine piece of cake
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Old 01-12-2017, 02:12 PM   #30
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So the Demon is going to be like a COPO, not for the street but a straight forward NHRA factory drag car. My excitement has dropped even lower for it now.
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Old 01-12-2017, 02:27 PM   #31
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So the Demon is going to be like a COPO, not for the street but a straight forward NHRA factory drag car. My excitement has dropped even lower for it now.
How do we know this for sure, not speculation? I guess that could be possible as the V10 is now gone and the Hellcat barely passes emissions...
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Old 01-12-2017, 02:30 PM   #32
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I'd be surprised if this is the case they already have the Drag Pack to fit the NHRA market.
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Old 01-12-2017, 02:31 PM   #33
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Dodge is also making a widebody Hellcat which will just bolt on the same bushwhacker flares...

Wow, I can't believe they would (or shall I say are) going to go that cheap ass route...
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Old 01-12-2017, 02:40 PM   #34
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Wow, I can't believe they would (or shall I say are) going to go that cheap ass route...
Notice how there's no proof of anything he's saying?

18's would have R/T level brakes..you really thing Dodge is going to put that much power on 13" non-brembo disks?
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Old 01-12-2017, 02:46 PM   #35
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I think a street legal drag car that runs low 10s would be cool
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Old 01-12-2017, 02:50 PM   #36
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Notice how there's no proof of anything he's saying?

18's would have R/T level brakes..you really thing Dodge is going to put that much power on 13" non-brembo disks?
Or the 800HP without a drastic change in engine design and the mention of a DR being sold on a factory street car. Either it's a Drag Pack not for street or someone is full of it.
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I'd LOVE to see them throw a set of DOT DRs on this thing and put all this "stock tire" BS to rest.
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Old 01-12-2017, 03:23 PM   #38
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I'd LOVE to see them throw a set of DOT DRs on this thing and put all this "stock tire" BS to rest.
Unfortunately Fiat would go bankrupt from the lawsuits due to idiots driving it in the rain, cold temps, or attempting to corner with a true set of DRs. Either that or they would have to ship a lengthy "how and when you can drive your new car" manual for those with too much money and not enough brains to understand DRs are not meant for "driving".
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Old 01-12-2017, 03:57 PM   #39
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Funny thing is that I have seen prototype cars, to which I'm pretty sure is this "Demon" Challenger. They weren't super camo-ed or anything; easy to spot. Not much I can share. I can say, whatever I've seen has wheels/tires that stick out beyond the regular Challenger wheel wells and it sounded like a V8.
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Old 01-12-2017, 04:10 PM   #40
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The articles say it looks like a Hellcat with a Widebody, and everyone assumes Dodge put more power behind it...

Just what they need a more powerful, heavier Challenger that can't turn... I will stick with the Camaro!

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Have you driven a 6.4 Challenger? They are stupidly fun to drive.
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Old 01-12-2017, 04:11 PM   #41
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Unfortunately Fiat would go bankrupt from the lawsuits due to idiots driving it in the rain, cold temps, or attempting to corner with a true set of DRs. Either that or they would have to ship a lengthy "how and when you can drive your new car" manual for those with too much money and not enough brains to understand DRs are not meant for "driving".
No different than the "summer only" tires that are on my 2SS. Honestly, the Nitto 555R DR on the back of my Challenger stick much better than the "summer only" tires on my Camaro in the cold weather we've had lately and the Challenger has 200+ more horse power to the tire. I've been data logging the Challenger for my tuner and have put the 555Rs to the test in 30 degree weather several times. Corner like a normal tire as well.

I make it a point not to drive either car in the rain, but have been caught in the Challenger coming home from ChallengerFest a time or two. No issues with the 555R and they even offer a non "R" version to run up front that has the same tread pattern so they match. Would be a fantastic tire for this solution.

Bottom line, modern tire tech has allowed DRs to come a LONG way in the past few years so much so that tread wear is about the only down side, but looks like the "summer only" GY Eagle F1s don't last very long either. I'm at 5,000 miles or a little over on my 555R DRs on the Challenger with LOTS of WOT pounding and have 25% or so tread left. I've read folks get 8,000 - 10,000 miles from the GY Eagle F1s.
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Old 01-12-2017, 04:25 PM   #42
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I love the "can't turn" talking points that people who likely have never driven a Challenger vomit out because they read them on forums.

Are they corner carvers? No. Are they competent in the corners? Yes.
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