03-18-2019, 04:06 PM | #15 | |
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03-18-2019, 05:03 PM | #16 |
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The 1LE option is what makes the car heavy.
When I was looking, the 2SS was heavier than a 1SS, but when you looked at the 1LE, it usually outweighed the 2SS.
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03-18-2019, 09:02 PM | #17 |
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From the 2018 Camaro playbook:
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03-18-2019, 09:50 PM | #18 | |
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03-18-2019, 10:54 PM | #19 | |
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The 1SS is a huge winner for value, nothing comes close to that performance for the price IMO. The 2SS gives you some GT-type niceties that make it more liveable day-to-day for me. I think you notice that it becomes incredibly challenging to go to ever-higher performance, as more HP usually weighs more, which in turn requires heavy duty parts, which all weighs even more, so bigger brakes are required, which also weigh more, etc. It gets into a feedback loop pretty fast, unless, and this is the big one, unless you only care about one metric, such as straight line. I remember back to my WRX mods that made it much faster in a straight line, and I remember hitting the brakes when over 100 and being surprised at how ineffective they were. No surprise due to the size of the brakes, but the point was I should have probably upgraded something other than power first.
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03-19-2019, 06:23 AM | #20 |
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The 1LE weighs more primarily due to the rear diff - the center section itself is substantially larger, has larger axles, has a larger differential, it adds the ECU and electronics to run it, and the rear cradle is substantially beefier.
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03-19-2019, 10:13 AM | #21 |
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take a pic and send to us, we'll tell you what dat sumbich is
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03-20-2019, 09:43 PM | #22 |
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Thanks for all the explanation of what the 1LE is.
I think it's exactly what I'm looking for and my Tuesday, is now Saturday, so I'm hoping to be experiencing what the car can do. I'm not looking for a smooth riding DD, as I'm use to driving some stiff suspension cars. My 2016 Chevy Z71 RCSB was smooth running...so I sold it for this SS. I need to feel the road and the dynamics of both the car and the road when driving. Looking forward to be a 1LE owner...soon!
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03-21-2019, 11:28 AM | #23 | |
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03-21-2019, 04:56 PM | #24 | |
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That's like what, a half-tank of fuel? Seems a small price to pay for massive front brakes, better rear traction, a more stout rear-end & axles, and a bunch of heat exchangers/coolant that will never,ever let the car overheat... |
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03-21-2019, 07:38 PM | #25 | |
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What are you going on about? Dude was worried about 2SS options adding too much weight, I pointed out the 1LE option seems to add the most weight. That fact was proven true in the next post.
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03-22-2019, 05:54 PM | #26 |
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With a bruised heart and a deflated ego, with sad soul and a head hung low. I apologize to you unconditionally. I didn't even look at what you drive.
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03-23-2019, 06:20 AM | #27 | |
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It's all good. I went through a lot of comparisons while deciding on my purchase of the 1LE and happened to notice that the 1LE seemed to weigh more than most other Camaros. Thought that was interesting since the car is suppose to be great on the track yet is carries more weight than the others.
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Also on the track alignment, my tires are worn the opposite, I for sure need more negative camber, the track alighnment specs are actually quite modest, 2.5 degrees negative I think, if you drive hard at all this will be beneficial. Quote:
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