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This is all going to be just my opinion, but I think the exterior of the pre-refresh 6th gen is nearly perfect, it would only need a couple small tweaks for more practicality:
- improve visibility by lowering the belt line a bit - bring the roof line up a bit for extra headroom and visibility - redesign the taillight assembly to allow for a larger trunk opening, maybe even split it up and place the inner segments on the trunk lid - people want larger mirrors, give them a bit larger mirrors (unnecessary IMO, but safety is always a selling point) In addition, I'd make a few internal changes: - increase trunk space just a bit, rear seat legroom is more than sufficient for this type of car and the headroom issue would already be taken care of - adjust the center console design a bit to provide more storage and easier access - add more optional tech such as an all digital instrument cluster, front/360 cameras, adaptive cruise control, more configurable HUD, integrate the infotainment screen into the dash instead of the current tacked-on look Current engine choices are fine, maybe with a little power bump, and the LT4 should be given a blower with more reserve. Tire choices are abysmal, whether people want extreme performance summer or all-season, Goodyear or Pirelli or Michelin or Continental, they should be able to order it. These would all be doable and should not increase costs too much. I get where you guys are going with the Bentley and the Buick Avista concept, but in my novice opinion a car like those or an Aston Martin or a BMW etc. would no longer be a Camaro. A very nice car, but not a Camaro. The distinctive, aggressive look of the Camaro is a heritage to be cherished and not morphed into a generic, me-too, this-is-supposed-to-sell-well-'cause-everyone-else-is-doing-it lookalike that (unfortunately) already appears to be the design direction. Basically, it needs to be someone's dream again, rather than the output of a risk-averse corporate committee design process. Dodge is to be commended here for sticking to their ancient, but absolutely distinctive design for the Challenger---also, who ever said that every single model from an automaker in every segment (sedan, performance, SUV, truck) has to look nearly the same, think Silverado/Malibu/Cruze/Camaro frontends... Now it is absolutely true that cars and especially sports and muscle cars aren't what the mainstream is appreciating these days, so most of these changes are somewhat unlikely. Yet I think if the practicality issues that every single magazine and youtube review brings up are addressed, the price wouldn't be a problem, there is already a Camaro available from $26k to $76k, and a sub-$30k V8 model with 500 hp is a pipe dream.
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Nope! but screw it I love my beast!
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Also.... does anyone else not see a picture in OP's post?
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12-28-2018, 08:34 AM | #46 |
Ohh crap...
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I see it as they need to (not that I necessarily want it) go the Bently-ish route to sell to the masses OR make a almost replica of the 1st gen but with updated suspension, safety, drivetrane, and interior. Changing the look only just enough so people know it isn't a 1st gen. I know quite a few people who would shove the money in GM's face for that! Myself included!
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I personally love the batman feel of being in this car and a buddy with a Lambo is always comparing his car to my Camaro and saying how much the Camaro cockpit reminds him of his car. The difference is I can fit in the Camaro but not the Lambo The only thing I would change on my Camaro would be the motor for a 500+ Hp Na Ls motor. To the OP your rendering looks like a Camaro and a Mustang had intercourse Nice work though nonetheless.
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12-28-2018, 11:52 AM | #52 |
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LOL...Gas consumption to high. 455HP and 455lb tq. and still getting 26+ MPG Highway miles. They were not serious in getting this car to begin with.
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God.... and you think 26 MPG is good? an AMG C63 is doing the same with 503hp and 516 lb-ft besides city mpg is REALLY BAD and thats why the camaro SS is getting gas gluzzer import taxes overseas, ruining car sales overseas... besides!!! this concept is NOT about an SS BUT a base V8 trim designed to be a fun DD as fuel efficiency as possible, GM is failing trying to do a performance car out of every single variant out there... base cars should be aimed for something diferent.... funny how hard core guys do jokes like this "ohh this car is perfect, people who complain about bisibility are Pu**s, the car is light, y get AWESOME MPG!" then complain why GM didnt come up with any Idea to fix the Camaro sales that going to end up killing the car by mid/end 2020s if not sooner
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