enabling AFM on a Manual trans

6spdhyperblue · 01-19-2016, 03:20 PM

wanted to start a thread on whether anyone has been successful in enabling AFM on a manual SS. We apparently have the hardware, I would like to see if we can activate for our own experimenting.

SS 1LE · 01-19-2016, 03:40 PM

Why would you want this on? I for one am glad it's off on the manual...I don't like the sound it makes, and I don't think certain engine parts getting more or less use due to this being active is good for longevity.

6spdhyperblue · 01-19-2016, 08:29 PM

i know you, and many others don't like it. while you may be understandably jaded from experiences in gen iv engines, I have had positive experience from it in my genv engine in my 14 silverado.

i figure, if i have paid for the more complex parts, possible added risk of failure, and lost of high RPM range from a cam swap without pulling the heads, i might as well experiment to see if i can get any extra MPGs.

Vad3r · 01-19-2016, 10:20 PM

I don't mind afm on my a8 2SS

Kracka · 01-20-2016, 04:23 PM

I like it in my C7 M7, it's a bummer they deleted it on the gen6 SS M6. I only use it (Eco mode) during long roadtrips, but it leads to a noticeable increase in highway MPG. Hopefully the tuners find a way to activate it in Eco mode like the Corvettes.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 01-22-2016, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SUMMIT WHITE SS

Why would you want this on? I for one am glad it's off on the manual...I don't like the sound it makes, and I don't think certain engine parts getting more or less use due to this being active is good for longevity.

Methinks you don't fully understand the system. You are correct - non-uniform wear/heat dissipation is bad for an engine. So the computer system monitors and will not allow the engine to be in V4 mode for beyond a specified amount of time.

The valves collapse and stay closed to create "air springs", maintaining pressure on the pistons, rods, and crankshaft.

I am very curious why there is no AFM on the manual transmission Camaros, but there is on the Corvette. I think all the hardware is still there (collapsable lifters, etc)....but I'm not 100% sure.

6spdhyperblue · 01-22-2016, 08:51 PM

I know there are resonance challenges in v4 mode, could that may be amplified by the transmission???

SS 1LE · 01-22-2016, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Wyndham

Methinks you don't fully understand the system. You are correct - non-uniform wear/heat dissipation is bad for an engine. So the computer system monitors and will not allow the engine to be in V4 mode for beyond a specified amount of time.

The valves collapse and stay closed to create "air springs", maintaining pressure on the pistons, rods, and crankshaft.

I am very curious why there is no AFM on the manual transmission Camaros, but there is on the Corvette. I think all the hardware is still there (collapsable lifters, etc)....but I'm not 100% sure.

I fully understand the system and have had it in two cars. Both of which were tuned out...

6spdhyperblue · 01-31-2016, 11:44 AM

Anyone get a tuning software on a manual yet?

laynlo15 · 01-31-2016, 03:54 PM

I really didn't notice the afm on my 16 like my 15. The 15 was in and out all the time and you could feel. I drove my new 16 about 240 round trip this weekend and hardly noticed it and got over 27 mpg running about 78 mph. Its way better then the gen 5 A6.

6spdhyperblue · 01-31-2016, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by laynlo15

I really didn't notice the afm on my 16 like my 15. The 15 was in and out all the time and you could feel. I drove my new 16 about 240 round trip this weekend and hardly noticed it and got over 27 mpg running about 78 mph. Its way better then the gen 5 A6.

thats what i hear!

raptor5244 · 05-22-2016, 09:21 PM

Anyone know if you can associate the AFM to a drive mode in the tune? For example, I would like to have AFM on when in Tour mode but turned off in sport and track mode.

TimsZ28 · 09-27-2016, 08:16 PM

Where is your info from stating we have "the hardware"? Just wondering as I tend to not agree.

6spdhyperblue · 09-27-2016, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimsZ28

Where is your info from stating we have "the hardware"? Just wondering as I tend to not agree.

Yes 8 months later a vendor found the manual camaro SS is the only GM vehicle to get a gen v engine without AFM hardware

which is pretty nice for those that want a easy cam only

01-19-2016, 03:20 PM	#1
6spdhyperblue Drives: 6th gen Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: US Posts: 3,678	enabling AFM on a Manual trans wanted to start a thread on whether anyone has been successful in enabling AFM on a manual SS. We apparently have the hardware, I would like to see if we can activate for our own experimenting.

01-31-2016, 03:54 PM	#10
laynlo15 Drives: 2022 Lt1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: clark, mo Posts: 8,860	I really didn't notice the afm on my 16 like my 15. The 15 was in and out all the time and you could feel. I drove my new 16 about 240 round trip this weekend and hardly noticed it and got over 27 mpg running about 78 mph. Its way better then the gen 5 A6. __________________ 2022 Lt1 6.2 A10, Maggie 2300, THPSI Port Inj/10 rib, Rotofab, E, Nickey, SCOL, Griptech, RC Bandits, Hoosiers/MT 9.80@142.96 1.44 60ft, 6.34@112 707/669 RWHP/TRQ. 16SS Maggie 2650 9.41@147 1.35 60ft, 5.99@119. 16 C7 A8 10.90@128 Bolt on stuff

09-27-2016, 08:16 PM	#13
TimsZ28 Drives: '16 2SS, '14 Z71 Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Arkansas Posts: 126	Where is your info from stating we have "the hardware"? Just wondering as I tend to not agree. __________________ '16 2SS M6 & '14 Z71

01-19-2016, 03:40 PM	#2
SS 1LE マスタング = 遅い Drives: 2017 Chevrolet Camaro SS 1LE Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Florida Posts: 7,061	Why would you want this on? I for one am glad it's off on the manual...I don't like the sound it makes, and I don't think certain engine parts getting more or less use due to this being active is good for longevity.

01-19-2016, 08:29 PM	#3
6spdhyperblue Drives: 6th gen Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: US Posts: 3,678	i know you, and many others don't like it. while you may be understandably jaded from experiences in gen iv engines, I have had positive experience from it in my genv engine in my 14 silverado. i figure, if i have paid for the more complex parts, possible added risk of failure, and lost of high RPM range from a cam swap without pulling the heads, i might as well experiment to see if i can get any extra MPGs.

01-19-2016, 10:20 PM	#4
Vad3r Drives: 2016 2SS Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 146	I don't mind afm on my a8 2SS

01-20-2016, 04:23 PM	#5
Kracka Drives: 2021 Corvette Z51 Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Oak Point, TX Posts: 151	I like it in my C7 M7, it's a bummer they deleted it on the gen6 SS M6. I only use it (Eco mode) during long roadtrips, but it leads to a noticeable increase in highway MPG. Hopefully the tuners find a way to activate it in Eco mode like the Corvettes.

01-22-2016, 08:51 PM	#7
6spdhyperblue Drives: 6th gen Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: US Posts: 3,678	I know there are resonance challenges in v4 mode, could that may be amplified by the transmission???

01-31-2016, 11:44 AM	#9
6spdhyperblue Drives: 6th gen Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: US Posts: 3,678	Anyone get a tuning software on a manual yet?

05-22-2016, 09:21 PM	#12
raptor5244 Drives: 2022 CT4-V Blackwing Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Florida Posts: 2,723	Anyone know if you can associate the AFM to a drive mode in the tune? For example, I would like to have AFM on when in Tour mode but turned off in sport and track mode.

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