[s346k]

these laws have been on the books for years. it is scary. we're totally ****ed when all of the states start forcing inspections, that is what will push people to electric cars.

[CHASLT1]

Our modding days are coming to a end as well as gas. Maybe we can mod the new gulf cart motors one day.

[Gunkk]

Well I'm not surprised that heightened EPA enforcement of existing statutes has come with a change in executive branch administration.

[CamaroCracka]

Originally Posted by s346k

these laws have been on the books for years. it is scary. we're totally ****ed when all of the states start forcing inspections, that is what will push people to electric cars.

Florida got rid of inspections when I was a teen and I don't see them coming back. The last time they brought it up, about 20 years ago, the public wanted to recall the entire state legislature.

The pendulum swings both ways. It just requires a little patience.

[6sigma]

I can't help but think the diesel modders get a lot of the blame for more emissions equipment enforcement. The coal-rollers are a very in your face a-hole move that very few like.

Like most things with the government this is full of unintended consequences and tends to punish those that are not the worst offenders.

[CamaroCracka]

It doesn't take a lot of modding to roll coal and it can be done with a catalytic converter in place, albeit more difficult. I don't find them as aggravating or dangerous as a Prius pulling into the left lane to slow traffic down.

If people didn't get triggered so easily, those guys would go away, but for some reason people slow down to get away from the smoke like it's going to melt their car.

[DaveC113]

Even as a car guy and engineer who has modded and build several vehicles from the ground-up... GOOD!

The coal-rollers and bro-dozers are to blame and I can't fault anyone who hates them.

My neighbor has a ridiculous bro-dozer and it annoys everyone around him, you can hear the high-pitched whistle from literally blocks away. What an asshole. It's so much worse than any loud car exhaust I've ever heard, and on the road the smell and smoke is simply not acceptable.

Also, if you think it's ok to drive around without cats, it's also your fault. This is not as bad as diesels but it's pretty bad and totally unacceptable as well.

[Fraxum]

Originally Posted by Trochoidal

Points and condensers too?

and drum brakes?

[craigss50]

Originally Posted by Need4Camaro

Well, truthfully while it’s all illegal I can’t help but feel that they aren’t doing this to save the environment but rather push up demand in the EV market where they will in some way get a kickback. I’m actually very much so pro going green but I’m heavily against the methods they’re using to get us there. I’m alittle worried about it TBH.

That stated I have a cam and LT’s on my 99 Z28 but went with high flo cats. It’s expensive but I hate the smell of no cats.

I intended to do LT’s and Hi Flo cats on my 6th Gen SS. That and a cam... it’s sounding like if I want that stuff, I’m going to have to hurry up and get it.

Can't say illegal. It's "Not Certified"

[Chrome383Z]

Originally Posted by DaveC113

Also, if you think it's ok to drive around without cats, it's also your fault. This is not as bad as diesels but it's pretty bad and totally unacceptable as well.

I don’t plan on driving around without CATs, but I did like the secondary CAT delete/mid-pipe solutions available. Now I have to hack my exhaust up which not a huge deal is annoying.

When I go headers I’ll have high flow CATs for the shear purpose I don’t want the smell. I did that with my 4th Gen LS1. LT/bullets dumped. The car and everything around it absorbed the raw fuel smell... that gets old.

[UnknownJinX]

Originally Posted by CamaroCracka

If people didn't get triggered so easily, those guys would go away, but for some reason people slow down to get away from the smoke like it's going to melt their car.

Get right next to a brodozer rolling coal right after you wash your car and better yet, have your window down.

Then come back and say you aren't triggered.

[CHASLT1]

Originally Posted by CamaroCracka

Florida got rid of inspections when I was a teen and I don't see them coming back. The last time they brought it up, about 20 years ago, the public wanted to recall the entire state legislature.

The pendulum swings both ways. It just requires a little patience.

I remember them in the later 80's and early 90's.

[Trochoidal]

Originally Posted by Fraxum

and drum brakes?

Yes as long as they’re on all 4 corners!

[CamaroCracka]

Originally Posted by DaveC113

Even as a car guy and engineer who has modded and build several vehicles from the ground-up... GOOD!

The coal-rollers and bro-dozers are to blame and I can't fault anyone who hates them.

My neighbor has a ridiculous bro-dozer and it annoys everyone around him, you can hear the high-pitched whistle from literally blocks away. What an asshole. It's so much worse than any loud car exhaust I've ever heard, and on the road the smell and smoke is simply not acceptable.

Also, if you think it's ok to drive around without cats, it's also your fault. This is not as bad as diesels but it's pretty bad and totally unacceptable as well.

OMG! I think I'm triggered. I need to go find a safe space, suck my thumb and drink some tea.

Not to derail the thread, but I'm pretty sure we are already there, for those considering escaping Covid tyranny by coming to Florida, and many are coming, remember there are lots of guys like me and we don't live in the ghetto. Make sure you get a house in a gated community because they won't allow us to park our trucks outside and our trucks don't fit in the garages.

You will see "bro-dozers" flying Trump flags as well as "Old Glory, and lots of them have train horns." You can go further south where there is a lot less of it, but then you run into all the street racing children of the well to do. Hell, in Orlando they had a group of quad riders taking over I-4, so you never know what might happen. We have bugs too, big ones. God Bless.