[le monstre]

so per car and driver new article about the mustang, the new 10 speed camaro still performed slower than the Gt. Im kinda surprised as the new ss is supposed to have a worst gas mileage than the 8 speed. so why should anyone wants to buy the 10 speed over the 8? it's only .1 second faster to the 1/4 mile. if it has already posted then please delete

''At the test track, the automatic's advantage was clear as it better harnessed the 460 horses and 420 lb-ft of Ford's latest and melodious 5.0-liter V-8: The 10-speed GT rocketed to 60 mph in 3.8 seconds versus the manual's 4.3, and it shaved half a second off the quarter-mile run, posting a 12.1 at 120 mph compared to a 12.6 at 115 mph. While the 455-hp Camaro SS with the six-speed manual bettered the similar GT with 4.0- and 12.2-second figures, the automatic Ford outpaced the 2019 Chevy with a very similar 10-speed by a tenth both to 60 mph and through the quarter, and also had a 2-mph-faster trap speed.''

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...on-performance

[vtirocz]

Originally Posted by le monstre

so per car and driver new article about the mustang, the new 10 speed camaro still performed slower than the Gt. Im kinda surprised as the new ss is supposed to have a worst gas mileage than the 8 speed. so why should anyone wants to buy the 10 speed over the 8? it's only .1 second faster to the 1/4 mile. if it has already posted then please delete

''At the test track, the automatic's advantage was clear as it better harnessed the 460 horses and 420 lb-ft of Ford's latest and melodious 5.0-liter V-8: The 10-speed GT rocketed to 60 mph in 3.8 seconds versus the manual's 4.3, and it shaved half a second off the quarter-mile run, posting a 12.1 at 120 mph compared to a 12.6 at 115 mph. While the 455-hp Camaro SS with the six-speed manual bettered the similar GT with 4.0- and 12.2-second figures, the automatic Ford outpaced the 2019 Chevy with a very similar 10-speed by a tenth both to 60 mph and through the quarter, and also had a 2-mph-faster trap speed.''

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...on-performance

Good find. I had read that article, but hadn't caught the reference to the 2019 Camaro SS they had tested.

12.1 @ 120mph is a really good time and trap speed for the Mustang (as is the 12.2 pass for the Camaro).

One thing I'd point out is that a 0.1s difference between the two isn't much, especially if it's not in the same weather conditions and track prep. I'd love to see a comparison test between them.

[protovack]

The differences are negligible and well within the margin of error. I'd like to see 5 runs on the same tires and then average them.
I'm positive that the TR6060 in the SS is the superior manual transmission.
Also the article goes on to say that they don't actually like driving the Mustang with the 10 speed auto, even if it gets a few extra tenths of a second in the quarter mile.
Why do people want the GM 10 speed over the A8? Shifting is much faster, crisper and its overall a much better transmission.
People don't just make buying decisions based on tenths of a second differences on single run "tests" by car magazines. They choose based on how it drives, how it feels, its reliability record, etc. The 10 speed is an attractive option and if I was getting an auto I'd want the A10.

[le monstre]

but the 10 speed posted a worst gas mileage which was supposed to be a big reason why would one wants it over the 8. I guess im just disappointed as i was expecting more from it

[z28pat]

This is disappointing to see , so why go to the 10 speed then ?

[mlee]

All this article shows is the GT gained in straight line performance. You can't get a decent comparison on different days with different drivers like they are doing. Just look at the manual trans times that show the SS is .4 faster in the 1/4 and .3 faster 0-60. Or the 4 cyl camaro being faster than

Time will tell and it may just be a drivers race now but you would have to see some time slips including important 60' times before you can say one is faster than the other, but the large gap that's existed for quite some time has closed some 120 trap speed is pretty darn good.

Originally Posted by le monstre

but the 10 speed posted a worst gas mileage which was supposed to be a big reason why would one wants it over the 8. I guess im just disappointed as i was expecting more from it

Are you talking about the Camaro or this article on the Mustang? I've heard very little talk about gas mileage being the reason for a 10 speed. It's just a better trans all the way around performance wise and the tuning on this is completely different between Ford and GM. Try it you might be surprised.

[torqueaddict]

The GT on paper was faster than the A8 as well, but actual track times isn't reflecting that for the majority of drivers. They were pretty much dead even. Also like I mentioned in another thread, 120 mph trap times are almost non-existent bone stock.

One example is not enough and we have to wait for actual owners to report their drag times at the track.
A .1 difference is too close.

Also, someone asked why get the A10? Seriously? To avoid the A8 TQ headaches.

While we all wish to see some straight line improvement, we also have to be realistic. The 2019s did not get an HP bump.

[Nsxmatt]

All the threads were saying the 10 speed would be such an improvement on the Camaro and like I said, it really won't be little to any change. It's a huge change on the mustang going from a 6 speed but not as much in the Camaro.

And as far as reliability, the 8 speed is a strong transmission. It's the programming and the slip that the is the main issue. There is no way in knowing how GM tuned the 10 speed. Those issues could still be there or could be another problem.

[sherob]

Originally Posted by le monstre

but the 10 speed posted a worst gas mileage which was supposed to be a big reason why would one wants it over the 8. I guess im just disappointed as i was expecting more from it

Did you really mention gas mileage?

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by Nsxmatt

All the threads were saying the 10 speed would be such an improvement on the Camaro and like I said, it really won't be little to any change. It's a huge change on the mustang going from a 6 speed but not as much in the Camaro.

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This is pretty much what I said as well. The A8 was a much better transmission than the A6 in the Mustang, and wasn't nearly going to be as big of a leap.

I will be curious to see how it performs in the hands of owners

[ChefBorOzzy]

The A6 in Mustang/F150 is pretty lousy.