05-20-2018, 05:09 PM | #1 | |
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CarPro Reload Standalone - 2 Massive Fails - What Gives?
Ok long story short...
I took my truck, fully strip washed it, iron decon, clay, re-wash and dry. I then applied CarPro Reload just like this video shows: The gloss was amazing and the paint was crazy slick immediately afterwards. I parked it and drove it a few days later. It started raining and I noticed there was very little paint beading. I then washed it that weekend and noticed even when just rinsing down there was ZERO beading, the water stuck to the paint and the surface wasn't slick at all, it was completely naked there was no protection on that paint. Ok I thought, I'll start over. I re-strip washed and dried, then I wiped the whole vehicle down with an IPA product very similar to Eraser. Then I applied CarPro Reload again, same way as above. Again, great gloss and the paint was very slick, it beaded like crazy when I squirted it with water (Tested immediately after application that is). So I parked the truck and drove it a few days later, again, in the rain. No beading on the paint, rain didn't fly off the truck when I was driving like the previous LSP I used did, and there wasn't any slickness to the touch. I pressure washed it this weekend and again, water clung to the paint like it had never been waxed/sealed, again paint is naked and grabby to the touch. I'm quite exasperated. Is it 100% necessary to apply CarPro Reload ONLY if you just polished it with Essence or something? That's the only thing I could think of to try next. It's going into the bodyshop for some chip fixes and after it comes out, I really doubt I'll try Reload again, I'm pretty much done trying to make it work. Previously I used Adam's LPS topped regularly with H2O G&G and the paint looked and felt amazing and beaded like crazy, water flew off when I drove it. Massive fail for CarPro Reload. Definitely not going to use it on my Camaro after running these trials. Anybody have any thoughts? Yes the Reload I have is brand new, bought from CarPro-US, was well shaken, I used good rags, paint was naked before application, etc. etc. I did everything right. |
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05-20-2018, 05:20 PM | #2 |
Thank you Al Oppenheiser!
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Works like a charm on my uncoated 6 year old Genesis. I washed with adams, then applied while doing final drying (after leaf blower dry). No special prep.
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05-20-2018, 05:20 PM | #3 |
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hmm, that is disappointing for sure. It does say it can be used as a standalone product, but I was always under the impression it was a 'ceramic coating booster".
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05-20-2018, 05:23 PM | #4 |
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I would post this on the car pro forum site, and see if Cory will answer you.
Just used it after a Dawn wash with a friend's new Honda civic, it came out great. |
05-20-2018, 05:23 PM | #5 |
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I understand, and this is the kind of feedback I heard about the product, so I decided to order it and demo it on my truck before using it on my garage queens and I'm glad I did because like I said, it has failed pretty bad for me. I might give it one more run if somebody has a holy grail fix that I'm missing. And as you said, you do no special prep and you have good results yet I went the extra mile and followed what detailers recommend to the T and got poor results.
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05-20-2018, 05:24 PM | #6 |
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05-20-2018, 05:27 PM | #7 | |
Thank you Al Oppenheiser!
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05-20-2018, 05:44 PM | #8 |
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Well I didn't even have to wash to see it not bead. But when I did wash it I tried Adam's Car Shampoo, CarPro Reset, Ech2o, and Adam's Strip Wash. For normal washes I'm using Adam's Car Shampoo until I use up the gallon I have. Again, washing the paint had nothing to do with the failure though.
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05-20-2018, 07:18 PM | #9 |
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I just did mine today I used essence, eraser, reload by hand .
Carpro said use eraser in between essence and reload if doing it by hand. No need for eraser if you’re using a polisher unless you use it before essence. I’ll let you know what happens on Wednesday it’s supposed to rain Tuesday and Wednesday morning. |
05-20-2018, 07:57 PM | #10 |
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It is possible that you had something on the surface that the clay did not remove. Therefore you did not get good adhesion with the last step product.
I always polish the car after using clay. Clay is an abrasive.
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05-20-2018, 08:25 PM | #11 |
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I did mine yesterday. First time ever using the product. Wife took it to work and it rained. On the way home she calls me and says, whatever you put on the car yesterday worked. All the raindrops are just flying off the car.
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05-20-2018, 08:55 PM | #12 |
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I don't have Essence but I do have a few other finishing polishes, since it was just polished, I will test a panel on the truck and polish it with finishing and then Reload it. I'll do the rest of the truck the old way though.
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05-20-2018, 08:57 PM | #13 |
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Good plan please post results.
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05-21-2018, 09:42 AM | #14 |
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Sounds like it is not bonding correctly, paint doesn't seem to be fully clean of any oils. waxes, sealants, etc. What did you initially wash it with, what type of soap?
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