[roostere4]

Originally Posted by Buellrider

Some great ideas in this thread. I have some questions…The vehicle will only allow eight RKE transmitters to be programmed to the vehicle. I am curious if the thieves process also overrides this? Can they make infinite keys or would they be stopped if the actual owner maxed out the RKE transmitters at 8?

If they are using some of the tools and methods I think they are, having 8 paired keys won't stop them. Though it might slow them down slightly, again depending on which methods they are using.

That is because they most likely have the ability to tell the vehicle that all existing keys are lost and that they need a new one programmed. Similar to the procedure outlined in the owner's manual.

[haggler]

I just did this today. I used the extension and tucked the OEM port away with a zip tie. There was a good spot to do it. It works well powering the device but coms fail. If they tried using it to steal my car there is no way they would get down on their knees to investigate. Seems like cheap insurance.

[The Maverick]

Was watching a vent-gauge install video and thought a portion of it might be of interest to OBD relocation efforts. Specifically the part from about 1:15 to 1:50 of this video:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rYtk-7ZP-iw

This avenue of access seems worthy of consideration in deciding how and where to relocate the factory wiring...

[ZLElvira]

Every single one of these ideas is now MOOT...!!!

I literally watched a Police Officer demonstrate this past weekend at Corvette Expo in Pigeon Forge, on my 2020 ZLE how he used my VIN to gain access using my cellphone to clone the remote, sit in my seat, press the brake and start the car within 3 minutes.

He said there is little they can do as the software is an open-source app that was supposed to be for Law-Enforcement only and first responders to get babies/children left in cars by neglectful parents... and he said the only real way to stop them is to simply block the VIN.

[2SS Capt]

Originally Posted by ZLElvira

Every single one of these ideas is now MOOT...!!!

I literally watched a Police Officer demonstrate this past weekend at Corvette Expo in Pigeon Forge, on my 2020 ZLE how he used my VIN to gain access using my cellphone to clone the remote, sit in my seat, press the brake and start the car within 3 minutes.

He said there is little they can do as the software is an open-source app that was supposed to be for Law-Enforcement only and first responders to get babies/children left in cars by neglectful parents... and he said the only real way to stop them is to simply block the VIN.

So I gather that works on any car?

[Rnovrit]

Originally Posted by ZLElvira

Every single one of these ideas is now MOOT...!!!

I literally watched a Police Officer demonstrate this past weekend at Corvette Expo in Pigeon Forge, on my 2020 ZLE how he used my VIN to gain access using my cellphone to clone the remote, sit in my seat, press the brake and start the car within 3 minutes.

He said there is little they can do as the software is an open-source app that was supposed to be for Law-Enforcement only and first responders to get babies/children left in cars by neglectful parents... and he said the only real way to stop them is to simply block the VIN.

Well that is a real bummer.


I don't think all hope is lost. I would assume things like vehicle based anti-theft type devices will still work as it interrupts the cars ability to start even if you have a functional key fob. Things like AGLA or Ravelco should still work or even the remote operated relays or battery kill switches. Things that are intergrated between the fob/start button and the vehicles actual operating systems should still work.

[Allez]

Originally Posted by ZLElvira

Every single one of these ideas is now MOOT...!!!

I literally watched a Police Officer demonstrate this past weekend at Corvette Expo in Pigeon Forge, on my 2020 ZLE how he used my VIN to gain access using my cellphone to clone the remote, sit in my seat, press the brake and start the car within 3 minutes.

He said there is little they can do as the software is an open-source app that was supposed to be for Law-Enforcement only and first responders to get babies/children left in cars by neglectful parents... and he said the only real way to stop them is to simply block the VIN.

Not sure why a LEO would need to start a car. In the situations you mention all they need to do is break a window (like everyone else . . .)

[speedyink1]

He used the cell phone.. How does this work? Is this because you use the Chevy App? Just curious how the cell phone plays into this..

[L2SS455]

Give me a break. the software is an open-source app ? WTF. GM needs to fix this, its BS. I got AOL asking for two-step verification just for E Mail. What the heck is wrong with them ?

[L2SS455]

Originally Posted by speedyink1

He used the cell phone.. How does this work? Is this because you use the Chevy App? Just curious how the cell phone plays into this..

How Phone-as-Key, Remote Start Apps Can Make Your Car Easier to Steal
https://www.motortrend.com/news/phon...theft-hackers/

[Matt1LE]

Originally Posted by L2SS455

How Phone-as-Key, Remote Start Apps Can Make Your Car Easier to Steal
https://www.motortrend.com/news/phon...theft-hackers/

Well, at least manuals don't have remote start. Id say cover your Vin number from inside the car. However, not too sure how easy it is to clone them with the plate number. They'd have to go through the DMV.


I guess the harder you make it for them to steal, hopefully they'd move on.

[IMCWORTH]

I removed my thoughts for the safety of all of our prize possessions

[aBee150]

Question, so the diagram shows 13 and 14 as both white but they do different things. If these were mixed up what will happen? Will data be read wrong or are they interchangeable, its weird they'd make both the same color.

I cut out my OBD-2 and wired it to an 8PIN connector then had my 8PIN connector match the new OBD-2 I bought so I can disconnect it and connect it easily when doing state-inspection. My only concern is if the two whites ever got mixed up, what would happen.

[2SS Capt]

Originally Posted by aBee150

Question, so the diagram shows 13 and 14 as both white but they do different things. If these were mixed up what will happen? Will data be read wrong or are they interchangeable, its weird they'd make both the same color.

I cut out my OBD-2 and wired it to an 8PIN connector then had my 8PIN connector match the new OBD-2 I bought so I can disconnect it and connect it easily when doing state-inspection. My only concern is if the two whites ever got mixed up, what would happen.

They are both negatives so I'm guessing they are interchangeable...